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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12690

    #71
    So the wind doesn't blow in winter in Canada, North Dakota or Texas?



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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21846

      #72
      This about solar panels there wizard , keep up or give up

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      • AlbertaFarmer5
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 12466

        #73
        And as we have been pointing out for the past few winters, every single time we get a cold snap, and energy consumption hits a peak, wind generation goes to virtually zero. Even if the wind were to blow, most of the turbines have to be turned off since they are not rated for those extreme temperatures.

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        • furrowtickler
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2004
          • 21846

          #74
          And the solar panels in winter get about 5-6 hours of daylight to produce power that’s need 24/7 or we freeze

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          • furrowtickler
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 21846

            #75
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Have you heard of inflation Furrow?

            The costs for everything related to electricity are going up and generation is only one part of the cost of delivering electricity.

            Solar and wind have some the lowest life time costs of electricity. LCOE

            Storage is available and renewables are still growing and improving.

            How can Texas and North Dakota have so many renewables if they don't make sense?

            Crickets or excuses on that question every time!
            Ever think for one second why there was inflation ….
            never mind , you can’t think for yourself

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            • AlbertaFarmer5
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 12466

              #76
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post

              Ever think for one second why there was inflation ….
              never mind , you can’t think for yourself
              The inflation excuse in energy contradicts centuries of energy deflation in inflation adjusted terms.

              Until solar and wind came along, each successive energy revolution had been cheaper than.what it replaced.

              Which is why it became the replacement. Not because governments mandated it.

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12466

                #77
                If the renewable energy revolution was really as cheap as we are led to believe. It would be highly deflationary, not inflationary.
                Just like the first industrial Revolution was.

                Our entire society revolves around the price of energy. If energy were getting cheaper, so would everything else we do.

                Instead Chuck is using inflation as the excuse for high energy cost, while simultaneously claiming it is cheaper and even free.

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21846

                  #78
                  Chucks where did yous go
                  ohhh right , takes all night to get your AI info lol

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                  • chuckChuck
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 12690

                    #79
                    Read it again!

                    Wholesale electricity prices have declined in Spain because of renewables. Whether these lower prices are passed on to consumers is a matter of policy, the market and regulation. But one thing is clear renewables produce lower cost electricity in Spain.

                    You can make all kinds of arguments as to why that wont work in Canada. But it doesn't change the fact that renewables have some of lowest lifetime cost of electricity in many places.

                    On our farm every solar kwh displaces a more expensive kwh from Sask Power.

                    The result is lower cost electricity.


                    Summary


                    The increased penetration of renewable energies in Spain, especially solar and wind, has reduced wholesale electricity prices by 20% in the last three years and could cut them by a further 20% by 2030 if the ambitious PNIEC targets are met.

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                    • AlbertaFarmer5
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 12466

                      #80
                      Must not. acknowledge. any. counter. arguments.

                      Just. Repetitively repeat. the same. Discredited propaganda. Over. And. Over. Again.

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