As construction of first small modular reactor looms, buyers wait for the final tally

[WiltonRanch]

God! New year but same rhetorical arguments Chuck. Your energies are better spent rebuilding the ndp than calling down a bunch of farmers. When the alternative technologies make true economic sense not influenced by carbon tax or regulation then they will be accepted but till then the bs you spew is believable as anything out of Trudeau or Daliwhal’s mouth.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

There is no point in debating a flat earther.
He is not open to any facts.

The wind and sun are free.
Can't beat free.

My wife has a saying,
Free cheese is in the mousetrap.

A neighbor gave my son a "free" boat last summer. Inflatable with a motor. The motor was beyond repair, so he bought a used motor, then another to make a usable motor. The boat had so many leaks and he spent so much on patches, that he gave up on patching and bought another boat to mount the motor onto.

Reminds me of free solar energy.

[blackpowder]

Can there be a better example than Lada vs Ford?
Belarus vs JD?
Okay maybe not "fair".
If govt had backed Tesla we'd have DC power in our homes? (Edison was AC). Neither with grants.
The New Deal built the Grand Coulee dam on a govt incentive.
Flooded some Indian lands. (9 years completion).
Allowed Alcoa to provide Boeing with aluminum. Flooded the war effort with goods by '45.
Question is, where's the money? Who's making it and what are the spin off cash flows?
Gov't has a place.
But only as an enabler of innovation not a provider of it.
In all my years on Agriville, not once has Chuck ever said any more than what he's saying now.
Gov't control the only way to get money to the masses. Not once has he acknowledged how to make it in the first place. Or how to keep enough of it to make more of it.
If Chuck were Chinese I'd understand the control, but almost every culture knows how to make money.
But his doesn't need to. His silver spoon has yet to see the tarnish of reality. Therein the danger.
Build whatever the heck you want if it adds value. Duh!

[blackpowder]

We have 4-8 short years to push the pendulum back.
Like backing an icy hill.
12" up, 14" down.
The pull of want like gravity.
People vote for what makes them feel good.
National Socialists only got votes after the Depression kicked in.
Rather than trolling like a child, Chuck could do a little better.
But doesn't want to.
I'm not against windmills.
I'm not about trying to tip them.
I'm for Taking Care of Business.
Which, if pursued by men of a balanced sensibility of values benefits all. Chuck throws everything under one bus. One outcome inevitable. Not the one he sees however. Trying to be Stalin's friend wasn't healthy.

[blackpowder]

PP just another man. No more no less, we hope.
JT was not. Not by my definition anyway.

[blackpowder]

And finally, we know nothing of Chuck the person compared to everyone else here.
Far too little for effort.

[chuckChuck]

Comparing abundant hydro resources in Quebec and Manitoba to solar and wind is ridiculous. Certainly hydro in those two provinces have proven to be affordable. Hydro is a dependable source of base load power, wind and solar are far from it.

Renewables are intermittent but they dependably produce a similar amount of electricity every year.

When every they are producing, you are using less electricity from other generation sources. In the cases of fossil fuels, that means lower fuel use and lower emissions every year.

Wind and solar are the lowest cost sources of new generation and that's why they are being installed at a fast rate in many countries.

Free market North Dakota and Texas can't be wrong can they?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

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When every they are producing, you are not using less electricity from other generation sources.

You can say that again.

[LEP]

Renewables are intermittent but they dependably produce a similar amount of electricity every year.

When every they are producing, you are not using less electricity from other generation sources. In the cases of fossil fuels, that means lower fuel use and lower emissions every year.

Wind and solar are the lowest cost sources of new generation and that's why they are being installed at a fast rate in many countries.

Free market North Dakota and Texas can't be wrong can they?

When a gas plant is meant as backup they still need to keep the boilers on so that they can kick in an instant. Otherwise you would have brown outs as they spool up.

It is a duplication and therefore an extra cost to the power system.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

When a gas plant is meant as backup they still need to keep the boilers on so that they can kick in an instant. Otherwise you would have brown outs as they spool up.

It is a duplication and therefore an extra cost to the power system.

That is why Chuck used the double negative when he said "you are not using less electricity from other generation".

Even he understands subconsciously.