Education Today

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If we could redirect the conversation from equality of outcome to equality of opportunity, we could probably find some common ground and actually accomplish something.

[Blaithin]

What the heck is equality of outcome?

If I run a mile in 30 minutes and Donovan Bailey runs it in 1 minute, I really ran it in 1 minute because the outcome must be equal?

I have many opportunities to run a mile but I’m definitely not going to have equal outcomes when doing so.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That is an excellent analogy.
What makes it even better is that the very same woke Wing nuts who are promoting the dei in every other facet of life, and if you dig down, it is always about equality of outcome, not opportunity, are the same ones who think that men should be allowed to compete in women's sports in the name of equality.

[furrowtickler]

Some pictures worth a thousand words …

[furrowtickler]

Screaming activists at current protests while others actually work for a living ..

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Chuck in real life

[chuckChuck]

Wilton Quote
"It is easy enough to blame these and address these societal problems for lack of positive outcomes for the marginalized of society but at the end of the day a lack of necessity for personal responsibility trumps the opportunities present. Can only help so much but people need to help themselves as well."

True some people make the wrong decisions.

But poor children who grow up with poor and or dysfunctional parents who don't have enough income to get a post secondary diploma or degree often continue to be poor because they didn't have all the advantages that come with better off parents. So they often remain in lower income jobs or have no jobs.

And of course there are exceptions, but if you look at the various income level groups you will see poverty and social dysfunction often causes more poverty.

Providing equality of opportunity requires investments in low income families who are often single moms, disabled, on sick leave, have health and mental health problems, lack skills for employment, can't afford child care to go to school or work, don't have family support ....... etc etc.

If you take care of these situations and insure there is equality of opportunity then many of these people will lift themselves out of poverty.
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[cropgrower]

how do you plan to take care of these situations ? sure is going very much in the wrong direction under this government , more people than ever homeless and going to food banks

[WiltonRanch]

Wilton Quote
"It is easy enough to blame these and address these societal problems for lack of positive outcomes for the marginalized of society but at the end of the day a lack of necessity for personal responsibility trumps the opportunities present. Can only help so much but people need to help themselves as well."

True some people make the wrong decisions.

But poor children who grow up with poor and or dysfunctional parents who don't have enough income to get a post secondary diploma or degree often continue to be poor because they didn't have all the advantages that come with better off parents. So they often remain in lower income jobs or have no jobs.

And of course there are exceptions, but if you look at the various income level groups you will see poverty and social dysfunction often causes more poverty.

Providing equality of opportunity requires investments in low income families who are often single moms, disabled, on sick leave, have health and mental health problems, lack skills for employment, can't afford child care to go to school or work, don't have family support ....... etc etc.

If you take care of these situations and insure there is equality of opportunity then many of these people will lift themselves out of poverty.
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Question is how do you get them to want to take advantage of the opportunity? Necessity? Single working moms have a need to work to support their kids and often instil that ethic upon their kids so no problem giving the kids an education and a pass out of poverty. A lowlife parent living on child benefits and neglecting the kids doesn’t work. What’s your take? Realize these a one of many situations but represents two sides of the argument.

[chuckChuck]

Ensure that single parents and disadvantaged people have an adequate income, housing, child care and employment so that their children can succeed at school and go on to training and education that will give them a much better chance at succeeding.

A lot of the people who don't take advantage of their opportunities, have addictions, mental health and health issues. Many of the unemployed are not employable for a variety of reasons.

So we also need to step up and ensure that we don't cast them off and fail in treating their issues.

And calling disadvantaged people as all "low life's" who don't want to work is wrong. Many of them can't work and afford childcare. So its easier to stay at home.

But if you provide childcare and other support, many will choose to go back to school or get a job.