Great article on wind and solar

[Hamloc]

Financial Post: “Bjorn Lomborg: Why solar and Wind power aren’t winning.”

From the article: “It is often reported that emerging industrial powers like China, India, Indonesia and Bangladesh are getting more power from solar and wind. But these countries get much more additional power from coal. Last year China got more additional power from coal than it did from solar and wind. India got three times more electricity from coal than from green energy sources. Bangladesh 13 times more and Indonesia an astonishing 90 times more. If solar and wind really were cheaper, why would these countries not use them? Because reliability matters.”

More: “A new study shows that to achieve 100 per cent solar or wind electricity with sufficient backup, the U.S. would need to be able to store 3 months worth of electricity every year. It currently has seven minutes worth of battery storage. The required batteries would cost the U.S. five times of its current GDP. And it would have to replace them all when they expired after just 15 years.”

[chuckChuck]

Wind and solar are capable of supplying significant amounts of electricity. Great Britain, Denmark, and Germany already have large amounts of renewable generation.

In Alberta the amount is already about 20%.

Danny Smith and her petro partners are so worried about ever increasing amounts of renewable electricity she had to slow it down with a fake claim it was putting good farmland at risk. Which is a bold faced lie.

The Alberta Utilities Commission clearly said the loss of land to renewables is very low when compared to oil and gas and industrial and urban development. And the environmental risk also very low compared to oil and gas.

The UCP opposed to the gate keepers wants to pick and choose winners in the freemarket? Now that is called being a gatekeeper! LOL

Now she is opposed to well insulated houses that use less energy! Lets bring back single pane windows and stop insulating just so she can sell more natural gas?

The sewage runs deep in the UCP!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Wind and solar are capable of supplying significant amounts of electricity. Great Britain, Denmark, and Germany already have large amounts of renewable generation.

In Alberta the amount is already about 20%.

Danny Smith and her petro partners are so worried about ever increasing amounts of renewable electricity she had to slow it down with a fake claim it was putting good farmland at risk. Which is a bold faced lie.

The Alberta Utilities Commission clearly said the loss of land to renewables is very low when compared to oil and gas and industrial and urban development. And the environmental risk also very low compared to oil and gas.

The UCP opposed to the gate keepers wants to pick and choose winners in the freemarket? Now that is called being a gatekeeper! LOL

Now she is opposed to well insulated houses that use less energy! Lets bring back single pane windows and stop insulating just so she can sell more natural gas?

The sewage runs deep in the UCP!

It is as if you are taking part in a completely different conversation, which the rest of us aren't privileged to reading. You post responses that have almost nothing to do with the original posts. Are these replies to the voices in your head, and you can't differentiate between the real world and your internal hallucinations?

[chuckChuck]

I just gave you several examples of where renewables are strong in response to the Financial Post: “Bjorn Lomborg: Why solar and Wind power aren’t winning.”

And according to the IEA wind and solar are winning as the lowest cost new generation capacity in many countries.

Its a long transition so what do you expect in a few years?

[blackpowder]

People were signing contracts that no oil company has gotten away with for half a century.
Where's your outrage now?

[furrowtickler]

Great Britain, Germany and Denmark have some of the highest electricity rates in the world .

[blackpowder]

I agree that for better or worse, it will be a long transition. Civilizations rise and fall on access to affordable energy. It will take an as yet unseen development to provide this differently.
As for oil itself. The great proportion of which is used for other than personal transportation. A lot of talk about oils' demise. None about a replacement.
Current replacement concepts aren't even close to removal strategies. Oil demand with us for a few generations yet.

[chuckChuck]

Great Britain, Germany and Denmark have some of the highest electricity rates in the world .

Just like Alberta relative to other Provinces thanks to deregulation and market manipulation!

[Hamloc]

Just like Alberta relative to other Provinces thanks to deregulation and market manipulation!

Actually, similar to the extent that higher inclusion rates of solar and wind have increased electricity prices but from a regulation standpoint, Great Britain, Germany and Denmark would have regulated power rates which Alberta does not. Still the fact remains adding solar and wind to the electrical production mix does not lower the cost of electricity.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Related question. We drove through southern AB yesterday. Went past one solar farm mid morning and all the panels were facing east. They appeared to be long rows, not individual panels that could easily rotate.
Are these able to track the sun and rotate?
Are some farms setting up to maximize production during the morning or evenings to take advantage of higher electricity prices as the midday glut gets worse?
This was south east of Lethbridge.