Canadian Carbon Rebate

[furrowtickler]

Most soils across the prairies have lost a large amount of organic matter. It will take a long time to rebuild it. Cattle guys and grazing are moving the needle more than zero till.

Not necessarily

[fjlip]

BUT BUT cows FART & belch C02 and methane, that is KILLING earth! Now what do we do?

[fjlip]

It's just this STUPID!

[kANOLA]

Most soils across the prairies have lost a large amount of organic matter. It will take a long time to rebuild it. Cattle guys and grazing are moving the needle more than zero till.

That is the problem when you are discussing farming with someone who isn’t farming they don’t realize that organic matter has been building in our soils . The only exception would be the organic farms that I been around going the other way.If you were a farmer direct seeding you would noticed that, quit the BS.

[chuckChuck]

You are deflecting again. You made the laughable claim that when tree roots decompose all of the carbon is released back to the atmosphere.
To use your tactic, what credible scientific organization is claiming that?

So soils never release stored carbon? is that another of your dumbass claims?

[fjlip]

Oh so now SOIL is evil? Maybe tax soil, stop the release of C02? That is dumbass!

[WiltonRanch]

That is the problem when you are discussing farming with someone who isn’t farming they don’t realize that organic matter has been building in our soils . The only exception would be the organic farms that I been around going the other way.If you were a farmer direct seeding you would noticed that, quit the BS.

Exactly! Hanging out at meetings, calling people names and arguing online, and doing research allows little time to get in the field. Organic matter which has been reclaimed through direct seeding, continuous cropping, proper fertilization, etc has done more to save the soils of western Canada than any hair brained directives espoused by hair brained ag larpers like you know who.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So soils never release stored carbon? is that another of your dumbass claims?

Do you realize there is a difference between net and gross?
Does trying to force your opponent to defend some absurd claim using the word "never" have any utility, does anyone take that bait?

If you have 10" of topsoil at 10% organic matter, it contains 176,000 lbs of carbon per acre.

The initial glacial till contained essentially 0 Carbon per acre.

How did this happen under your scenario where you claim decomposing roots etc release their C back into the atmosphere?
Where did the C come from?

[fjlip]

He is researching, don't disturb, response early morning.

[chuckChuck]

Most prairie soils were much higher in organic matter prior to agriculture. And zero tillage has been a big benefit to soil health and sequestering some carbon. But it will probably never get back to the levels before cultivation where perennial grasses built up organic matter over thousand of years.

And soil organic matter continues to release carbon in the carbon cycle.

But the difference is all the previously stored CO2 that has come from and continues to come from fossil fuels. That's the carbon emission source we have to reduce.