Their is no such thing as long covid

[cropgrower]

I have had 4 shots. By your logic I should be dead. Using the same anecdotal evidence , I know of many who have had multiple shots and none have been ill. I do know people who have had covid and suffered longer term effects from covid.

do you know for sure that the longer term effects are from covid ? and not jab ?

[agstar77]

What I can't understand is how it can possibly be that myself and everyone I know know multiple people who have had immediate injuries or died immediately from the vaccine. But yet somehow the few remaining Pro vaccine posters on here have never encountered anyone.
Is this even statistically possible?

Maybe you should look at their Coroner's cause of death., or would that spoil your narrative?

[blackpowder]

I am not a doctor.
I would never tell someone what to do. I believe in vaccines. I don't participate in any wild theories.
What I think is that I blame the virus.
I was sick after each shot. My son was not. Mine took days. One friend took 3 months. The neighbor came down with the flu the next day like the rest of us only it persisted and he developed a damaged heart..
I and many I know, both vaccinated and non vaccinated, contracted the virus without harm.
I believe the virus was nasty enough that the vaccine carried some risk.
As did the virus itself to a much larger degree.
Myself, and everyone I know of, are done with anything covid including shots. I urge the usual childhood vaccinations.
Side effects of one are being projected on the other.

[TSIPP]

Maybe you should look at their Coroner's cause of death., or would that spoil your narrative?

What would happen if the coroner said it was a vaxx death? Probably would be a coroner looking for another job, what was the coroner’s findings?

80% vaxxed at first and now 85% aren’t getting the vaxx and a big part of the population won’t get any vaccines anymore.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Maybe you should look at their Coroner's cause of death., or would that spoil your narrative?

Except that I don't have a narrative on this issue. As I've said in the past it is entirely possible that in spite of all of the vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries, the vaccine could have still saved more lives than it ruined. Risk versus reward. Nothing is 100% safe or 100% effective. We still don't have definitive figures on that.
As I said at the beginning of the vaccine debate, I think both sides are wrong. I said that I think the anti-vax are wrong, in that the vaccine won't be nearly as deadly or harmful as they believed it was. And I said that the pro vaccine crowd will be wrong in that the vaccine won't be nearly as effective as they hoped it would be. Both statements seem to be accurate as of today.

Would you like to talk to my family doctor? In spite of nearly dying from the vaccine (and ICU for weeks, nearly died multiple times) confirmed by multiple medical experts that that was the only cause, he still thinks that it saved many lives of vulnerable people. But should never have been administered to healthy Young people.

[fjlip]

I never said the vax KILLS outright, I suggest if both facts are correct, " getting Covid after VAXED 2-3-4-5 times, cumulative effects happen."

Then I said a person I know DESPITE all the VAXES, is sick. The vax NEVER helped him. That is a fact.
Further it is possible we are all different in that most CAN handle Vax effects. But obviously small percent can not.

I believe the storage and administration of shots left much to be desired. First the said -70C, then just the fridge? I bet the spike settled in the vials, some got much more spikes. The doses were NOT age/body size adjusted. My 90lb, 89 year old Mom got same shot as 200lb 40 year guy? Way too much uncertainty.

Anyway unvaxed and still here. Some say we should have all DIED.

[chuckChuck]

The initial waves of covid caused death and organ damage. In some cases to otherwise healthy people. But mostly to those who had weak immune systems or were elderly.

I have met several healthy people who have said after getting covid, they still have lingering symptons that would be called long covid.

Viruses can cause long term damage to the body. Just ask anyone who had polio before vaccines.

To suggest that long covid is not real, is like saying the nerve damage from the polio virus is not real. Get a brain Crop.

Myocarditis is a possible side effect of the vaccines. It is rare and temporary in thhe vast majority of cases.

Myocarditis from covid is a more frequent complication.

Crop you posted a fake antivaxer poster claiming it was from Ireland and when I pointed out that the Irish health services clearly say covid vaccines are safe you slinked away and disappeared.

You are a shameless uninformed liar.

[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html[/url]

"Long COVID is a real illness and can result in chronic conditions that require comprehensive care. There are resources available. Long COVID can include a wide range of ongoing health problems; these conditions can last weeks, months, or years."

[cropgrower]

all based on a test that they now have also said did not work , no matter what illness folk had it was called C19

[chuckChuck]

Sure Crop. Another crap idea? Get a brain.

[fjlip]

"Myocarditis is a possible side effect of the vaccines. It is rare and temporary in the vast majority of cases.

Myocarditis from covid is a more frequent complication."

Again what if it adds up, Covid after Vaxed? Those are the sickest.