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    Trump’s business empire could collapse ‘like falling dominoes’ after ruling

    Trump’s business empire could collapse ‘like falling dominoes’ after ruling

    Trump is effectively ‘out of business’ in New York, Michael Cohen says, after judge rules business fortune built on rampant fraud
    Richard Luscombe
    @richlusc
    Wed 27 Sep 2023 21.14 BST
    First published on Wed 27 Sep 2023 18.41 BST

    Donald Trump’s real estate empire could collapse “like falling dominoes”, experts believe, following a New York judge’s ruling that the former president’s business fortune was built on rampant fraud and blatant lies.

    According to Michael Cohen, his former attorney and fixer, Trump is already effectively “out of business” in New York after Judge Arthur Engoron on Tuesday rescinded the licenses of the Trump Organization and other companies owned by Trump and his adult sons, Eric and Don Jr.

    “Those companies will end up being liquidated … the judge has already determined that the fraud existed,” Cohen told CNN, hailing Engoron’s pretrial ruling in a civil case brought by Letitia James, the New York attorney general.

    On Wednesday morning, in a confrontational post on his Truth Social website that branded the judge a “political hack”, Trump said Engoron “must be stopped”.

    At a hearing on Wednesday afternoon, Trump’s legal team asked Engoron if his ruling meant Trump’s assets and businesses must be sold, or if they could continue to operate under receivership.

    Engoron said he would address the issue at the non-jury trial beginning on 2 October, and extended to 30 days his original 10-day deadline for both parties to suggest names to act as receivers for the various companies.

    The lawyers have said they will appeal the rescinding of the licenses, the appointment of receivers, and Engoron’s assertion that Trump and executives lived in a “fantasy world” of routinely, repeatedly and illegally overvaluing property values and his personal net worth to gain favorable loan terms and reduced insurance premiums.

    But if the appeals are unsuccessful, the collapse of the Trump empire, upon which the former reality TV host staked his reputation as a successful business tycoon, could be imminent.

    It would probably start with the sale of Trump’s most prestigious real estate assets, experts say, including Trump Tower in New York, golf courses and resorts around the US, and possibly his prized Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, if it is determined to be a business operation instead of his primary residential home.

    In his post on Wednesday, Trump decried the judge’s $18m valuation of Mar-a-Lago, claiming it was worth “100 times more than he values it”.

    William Black, a white-collar criminologist, corporate fraud investigator and distinguished scholar in residence for financial regulation at the University of Minnesota law school, said: “In finance, once the dominoes start falling, it becomes basically impossible to save it.

    “These properties are even more damaged goods today because of the success in demonstrating they are massively overvalued. The most likely thing, if you get an honest agent or receiver, they’re going to sell the properties at a loss. And when you’ve got a whole bunch of properties, with the first one you just desperately need to get some action and that gets discounted the most.”

    Black, who helped expose congressional wrongdoing in the Lincoln Savings and Loans scandal of the 1980s, in which the financier Charles Keating inflated his company’s worth to bilk taxpayers for billions, called Engoron’s ruling “devastating”. He believes Trump insiders and employees would have incentive to come forward with more information if he loses his wealth and influence.

    “What we experienced in the Savings and Loan debacle, we would put in an honest manager and employees would start coming to that person over time and say, ‘You know, you really ought to look at this,’” Black said.

    “Trump is monumentally, stupidly greedy in that he isn’t actually paying for a number of key lieutenants in terms of their legal needs, and they’re facing financial collapse of their own, [such as] the Rudy Giulianis of this world. But a lot of folks can sink Trump.

    “Having this ability to control all these assets, even if they’re massively overvalued, meant hope springs eternal among the Trump folks that he can use that money and influence to help them, but if Trump instead ends up bereft of control over the overwhelming bulk of his assets, and has lots of liabilities, sugar daddy goes away.”

    Engoron’s independent court-appointed monitor for the Trump Organization, the retired federal judge Barbara Jones, reported last month she had identified inconsistency and incompleteness in financial disclosures.

    #2
    What?? Trumps "billions" in business assets were built on fraud and lies? Seems like everything he touches is built on lies and fraud!

    But the t Rump sheep will still support the greatest liar?

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      #3
      No one should be surprised at all.
      Fraudulent valuations for loan purposes.

      Not sure where you find all these reports that say "according to experts".
      Some strung together quotes with no facts.

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        #4
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        What?? Trumps "billions" in business assets were built on fraud and lies? Seems like everything he touches is built on lies and fraud!

        But the t Rump sheep will still support the greatest liar?
        WTF is wrong with you ????

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          #5
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          What?? Trumps "billions" in business assets were built on fraud and lies? Seems like everything he touches is built on lies and fraud!

          But the t Rump sheep will still support the greatest liar?
          Your keyboard is sticking again, random spaces and capitalization.

          It would be easier to read if you could address this defect.

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            #6
            Meanwhile in Canada , Trudeau’s liberals tried to sweep the “Nazi event” in parliament under the rug .
            Well that failed , so hey look at Trump …. Bleat bleat bleat …


            Next distraction ……

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              #7
              Trumps massive empire will collapse about the same time as the Statue of Liberty is under water, so any day now.

              Does chuck support our PM being high on coke on a G7 mission then bring a nazi into the HoC to be applauded.
              Last edited by jazz; Sep 28, 2023, 10:03.

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                #8
                Come on chucky, no trump deranged symdrome, DO you support our Nazi loving coke sniffing PM?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  What?? Trumps "billions" in business assets were built on fraud and lies? Seems like everything he touches is built on lies and fraud!

                  But the t Rump sheep will still support the greatest liar?
                  Hahahha did u just post and then respond to your own post?

                  Man,youre a nerd.

                  I thought it was trolling 101 to NOT respond until someone had responded.
                  Youre slippin chuckchuck.. losin traction bud!

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                    #10
                    He is very good at the"Grift". He has basically grifted the entire country.

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                      #11
                      so are we suposed to feel sorry for the poor New York bankers ? are we expected to believe they dont know the value of property ? better send them a donation to help them out CC and stop posting pure garbage

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                        He is very good at the"Grift". He has basically grifted the entire country.
                        You have accurately described almost all politicians of all stripes.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                          He is very good at the"Grift". He has basically grifted the entire country.
                          Trumps a grifter? Wtf did Obama Biden or Trudeau actually build.

                          Trump was gifted a healthy inheritance in the 70s and he could have stuck it in the stock market and sat on his ass. Instead he turned it into $4B.

                          If NY bankers don’t like it they should revalue his properties and see how well that goes over in the local property market.

                          What has chuck built other than a wide network of climate propaganda grift.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                            Come on chucky, no trump deranged symdrome, DO you support our Nazi loving coke sniffing PM?
                            What ? I thought PPs colleagues loved wine and Dining Nazis- like Christine Anderson from Germany
                            By the way a reporter on the plane said the coke story was fictitious- but the right wing media never likes facts

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                              #15
                              Hey Chuck, your Bad Trump thread got the same amount of views as the how to get to Winkler thread.

                              Maybe Canadian farmers don't give a **** about Trump?

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