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First Nations lay claim to all critical minerals

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  • newguy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 2145

    #21
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    And to think I got called a troll for bringing this up. More than just a rumor now if Moe is sounding the alarm.

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    Do you have natural resources in your RM?if not be glad others are sharing with the have not RMs.

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12682

      #22
      The province owns the vast majority of minerals in the province and that is shared with every taxpayer even though the Sask Party gives the oil companies really low royalty rates relative to other countries.

      Anytime the provinces talk about higher royalty rates the oil companies shut it down to keep their profits as high as possible. Danny Williams got Newfoundland a better deal but the western premiers are too cosy with the oil companies to stand up against them. Taxpayers own most of the oil and its not going anywhere but the Alberta and Saskatchewan governments give them a nice handout with low rates.

      First nations are saying that they deserve a larger share because rare earth minerals were not part of the treaties on ancestral lands.

      The justice minister is going to take a look at Natural resource Act transfers from the Federal government to the provinces in the 1930s. First Nations reserve lands were excluded and ancestral land minerals weren't included in the treaties.

      Moe wants to pick another fight with Ottawa at every opportunity. But he will be bound by federal treaties and a duty to consult and the eventual supreme court decision if it gets that far without being settled first.
      Last edited by chuckChuck; Apr 11, 2023, 07:50.

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      • jazz
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 9308

        #23
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        First nations are saying that they deserve a larger share because rare earth minerals were not part of the treaties on ancestral lands.

        The justice minister is going to take a look at Natural resource Act transfers from the Federal government to the provinces in the 1930s. First Nations reserve lands were excluded and ancestral land minerals weren't included in the treaties.
        Thats some pure bullshite chuck. Every citizen shares in the wealth of our resources on an equal basis and we have rigged equalization payments to make sure of that.

        Natives have no more right to whats under our feet than does some yahoo in Toronto.

        This is just grifting on to a industry that this group had zero contribution to. And it will end all of our natural resource investment if it goes through.
        Last edited by jazz; Apr 11, 2023, 09:19.

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        • WiltonRanch
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 4512

          #24
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Thats some pure bullshite chuck. Every citizen shares in the wealth of our resources on an equal basis and we have rigged equalization payments to make sure of that.

          Natives have no more right to whats under our feet than does some yahoo in Toronto.

          This is just grifting on to a industry that this group had zero contribution to. And it will end all of our natural resource investment if it goes through.
          Fait Accompli for the enviro loons Russians and Saudis.

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          • jazz
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 9308

            #25
            Some of you are not aware that native bands are suing to open up a clause in the treaties that were supposed to provide them implements to farm back in the late 1800s. Since plows and pick axes dont qualify anymore, they are suing for pure cash in the 10s of millions.

            Even bands that dont have a farmable acre are in on it.

            https://lrrcn.ab.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Final-settlement-agreement.pdf

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4512

              #26
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              Some of you are not aware that native bands are suing to open up a clause in the treaties that were supposed to provide them implements to farm back in the late 1800s. Since plows and pick axes dont qualify anymore, they are suing for pure cash in the 10s of millions.

              Even bands that dont have a farmable acre are in on it.

              https://lrrcn.ab.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Final-settlement-agreement.pdf

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              Lovely. Now be it trivial suits such as this or more larger scope ones like mineral rights looks to tie the legal system up for decades to come. No industry or investment will dare set foot until stability is achieved. Pure utopia for marxists and environmentalists. You can understand why a large part of resource rich Africa is destitute. Now being pillaged by the Chinese selling them magic beans.

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              • newguy
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 2145

                #27
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Thats some pure bullshite chuck. Every citizen shares in the wealth of our resources on an equal basis and we have rigged equalization payments to make sure of that.

                Natives have no more right to whats under our feet than does some yahoo in Toronto.

                This is just grifting on to a industry that this group had zero contribution to. And it will end all of our natural resource investment if it goes through.
                So is the natural resource under your feet? Or is it under someone else's feet in Sask that you expect to have a piece of ?

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12682

                  #28
                  The provinces have control over provincial resources except on federal lands and reserves and that wont change as it is in the constitution.

                  What might change is recognition that first nations are entitled to a share in further resource development on ancestral land along with some say in their development.

                  How that plays out in the political arena and legally is yet to be seen.

                  In the early part of last century several first nations saw a significant part of their reserve land base carved off and given to settlers. The treaties were signed but broken. First nations people were prevented from farming and the best land was given to settlers.

                  And minerals were never signed over in the treaties. So they have a legitimate claim to a share in resource development.

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                  • fjlip
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 9775

                    #29
                    I say we call it a wash...Europeans dragged the first nations OUT of the STONE Age, NO wheel, NO horse, NO written language.....how lucky they missed a few 1000 years of trying on their own. What would such a hand up be worth?

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                    • TSIPP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2659

                      #30
                      Priceless!!!

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