Ukraine "on the ground"

[shtferbrains]

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1531301883628986368?t=r7QybsQlblFOn8h8EMf31Q&s=19


Seems like an Eastern European thing as these guys on Russian national TV have much the same message only include USA.

[foragefarmer]

Putin has been committing genocidal attacks on Ukrainian citizens on a daily basis since Feb 24 2022.

Yet you focus on what some journalist talks about.

Very comparable.

[binthere]

"Some journalist". Very interesting statement.

[agstar77]

Who is invading and committing genocide? Are Ukrainians invading Russia? Oh and by the way Russian ruble .012 U.S. So much for going away from U.S. dollar.

[beaverdam]

Ukraine will keep sending young and old to the front lines, as long as NATO/west keeps paying for the arms and for the propaganda, as both are needed to keep people willing to fight.

Macron, Boris Johnson and others tried to get peace negotiations before this thing took off, but Biden and the rest of the neocons(Bush's, Clintons, Cheney's, Obama, Biden, Bolten etc.) wouldn't have it.

Imagine, if they'd peacefully negotiated the separation of one or two provinces to Russia,,, no deaths, no destruction.

[agstar77]

Ukraine will keep sending young and old to the front lines, as long as NATO/west keeps paying for the arms and for the propaganda, as both are needed to keep people willing to fight.

Macron, Boris Johnson and others tried to get peace negotiations before this thing took off, but Biden and the rest of the neocons(Bush's, Clintons, Cheney's, Obama, Biden, Bolten etc.) wouldn't have it.

Imagine, if they'd peacefully negotiated the separation of one or two provinces to Russia,,, no deaths, no destruction.

Seriously? If that's all they wanted , why did they try to take Kiev? Get your head out of your a##.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Seriously? If that's all they wanted , why did they try to take Kiev? Get your head out of your a##.

They never seriously tried to take Kiev with that miniscule force. That was a misguided attempt to force Ukraine to the negotiating table. Gone horribly wrong.

I am willing to to wager whatever you want, that after the defeat of the Ukrainian military, that Russia doesn't even attempt to occupy any regions beyond those which were historically Russian, and still populated by primarily Russian speakers.

[sumdumguy]

We’re back to, “Follow the Money”.

[agstar77]

They never seriously tried to take Kiev with that miniscule force. That was a misguided attempt to force Ukraine to the negotiating table. Gone horribly wrong.

I am willing to to wager whatever you want, that after the defeat of the Ukrainian military, that Russia doesn't even attempt to occupy any regions beyond those which were historically Russian, and still populated by primarily Russian speakers.

That would be the Russian version. Spending billions to force Ukraine to negotiate seems like a winning strategy. They assumed Ukraine would surrender. With their economy collapsing the finger of blame will soon point at Putin. We shall see how long he lasts.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That would be the Russian version. Spending billions to force Ukraine to negotiate seems like a winning strategy. They assumed Ukraine would surrender. With their economy collapsing the finger of blame will soon point at Putin. We shall see how long he lasts.

So you are accepting my wager?

[jazz]

The much anticipated Ukrainian counter offensive completely botched, 7500 young Ukrainians deleted, .

Are you sure these are Ukrainians. Not many of them left. US sent out a contract for foreign fighters to pour into the region. Even called up some ISIS and Taliban.

Wont matter. All the US mercenaries that wanted to get some call of duty action thinking russia was Iraq 2.0 got sent home dead, limbless or permanently disabled.

Lot harder than fighting guys in sandals.

Wait until the chinese start making military equipment for Russia. While the west is still looking for the right bathroom and pondering what is a woman, China will start making 100 Kinzals a day.

[beaverdam]

We shall see how long he lasts.

and how many more dead? how much more infrastructure destroyed? how much more PTSD for people to endure for years to come? how many more amputees? How many more families destroyed, widowed, or separated?

"We shall see how long he lasts" is a pretty easy thing to say, when you don't have any skin in the game.

Are you telling your sons or daughters to get over there and fight with the Ukrainians? They accept all who want to bear arms and fight with them. I didn't think so! (you're welcome to go too, they'll take 60, 70 even 80 year olds, if you can hold a gun and pull the trigger.

[agstar77]

Putin a## kissers unite!

[sumdumguy]

Guess Agstar is all talk-no action! What else is new? They want to fight but they want us to fight the battle for them.

[agstar77]

Have you booked your trip to Russia yet? I will chip in.