Year in review: hearing hard truths about First Nations farmers

[jazz]

CG, as you can see, nothing starts with a solution with a marxist lunatic like chuck until you denounce yourself, admit you are a racist and deplorable human being and that you and all your family continue to commit genocide on a global scale.

So basically conversation over before it begins.

Good luck on your woke crusade chuck. You are on your own. Take it up with the govt not us. But private land stays private and reparations are not happening if thats what you are angling for. Govt owns 89% of the land in canada. Let them give a few million km2 back first.

[cropgrower]

everybody is equal to me , and you have no right to call me rasist , i dont care what colour sombodys skin is , live within the law and make a living by honest means , i wish them all the best

[chuckChuck]

First thing stop the racism and denial. And there is nothing or no one that will fix everything.

First nations have many of the solutions themselves. Are you listening to them and do you support them?

[cropgrower]

you still have not told us what will fix everything for them

[chuckChuck]

That is the really unfortunate part. FAS is a huge hurdle to even attempt to overcome. No amount of money or opportunity or apologies is ever going to right that wrong.
And trying to hold me and my ancestors responsible for the actions of the current generations isn't going to help.
Breaking that vicious cycle would probably be the most productive step possible. And I don't profess to know how that could be accomplished. Especially if Chuck etc al continue to be violently against anything related to personal responsibility.

More exaggeration? LOL Do you understand what shared responsibility means? It includes personal responsibility.

Many of the problems are current issues.

And we already know that many people blame first nations for all their problems denying the situation many first nations experienced.

But then forget about the things we heard and experienced when Gerald Stanley shot and killed Colton Boushie. It was blatant racism.

Even the Premier had to warn that a lot of the racism crossed the line.

So we all share some responsibility for the problems and current state of affairs even though many on the right would like to deflect, dismiss and deny.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A lot of people send their kids to school in the city for a better education and less negative influences.

Didn't some well meaning educators try something like that in the past too?

[WiltonRanch]

That is the really unfortunate part. FAS is a huge hurdle to even attempt to overcome. No amount of money or opportunity or apologies is ever going to right that wrong.
And trying to hold me and my ancestors responsible for the actions of the current generations isn't going to help.
Breaking that vicious cycle would probably be the most productive step possible. And I don't profess to know how that could be accomplished. Especially if Chuck etc al continue to be violently against anything related to personal responsibility.

FAS is insidious and papas sperm if he’s drunk supposedly contributes as well. Oh no! Wonder how pronounced FAS is in the Russians especially Siberia. Sensible undamaged people are known to make poor decisions let alone FAS affected. Read a stat that 85% of native gang members were FAS affected. Perfect foot soldiers for the Posse and related gangs. Local rez has been dry forever. We kept cows on rez and not far off as well. Lots of party sites back in the bush. Elders and well meaning folks try but families have trouble keeping kids away from gangs. Same Rez though dry is bad for drugs and murders. One instance guy was bumped off on the road off the Rez they cut off his face and smeared on his windshield. Don’t get me wrong a lot of folks work off Rez or on the Rez in the patch. Lots of employment opportunities. They’re trying but between gangs, drugs, and half corrupt leaders it’s tough. A lot of people send their kids to school in the city for a better education and less negative influences.

[blackpowder]

Finally someone who agreed first nations got a shitty deal! We are making progress. At least you didn't agree with "personal responsibility" is the only issue BS.

Whats wrong with having the discussion about how many people don't really know the history of what happened nor do they know the current issues that are still making it difficult for first nations to succeed?

Without that discussion its hard to move to forward with solutions with people who's first thought is to blame first nations for all their problems.

Its a shared responsibility.

Sharing is not a one way street.
I don't see anyone in the middle on this actually.

[blackpowder]

That is the really unfortunate part. FAS is a huge hurdle to even attempt to overcome. No amount of money or opportunity or apologies is ever going to right that wrong.
And trying to hold me and my ancestors responsible for the actions of the current generations isn't going to help.
Breaking that vicious cycle would probably be the most productive step possible. And I don't profess to know how that could be accomplished. Especially if Chuck etc al continue to be violently against anything related to personal responsibility.

I could add. He was from a different culture. Overseas. But it didn't come with a members only card.

[seldomseen]

Finally someone who agreed first nations got a shitty deal! We are making progress. At least you didn't agree with "personal responsibility" is the only issue BS.

Whats wrong with having the discussion about how many people don't really know the history of what happened nor do they know the current issues that are still making it difficult for first nations to succeed?

Without that discussion its hard to move to forward with solutions with people who's first thought is to blame first nations for all their problems.

Its a shared responsibility.

I have read a lot of different books on the history of Western Canada and our native peoples.
One thing that always shines through is what a disaster the Canadian government was and how it screwed everything up when dealing with our native people.
The government hasn’t changed and will still screw up everything it touch’s so I can’t see where adding more government to this problem would be a benefit.
From what I have read the best the natives have had it was when the HBC company ran Western Canada and their big problems started after Canada bought the West.