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    Originally posted by jazz View Post

    How do we know that Europeans we werent reverse infected with diseases they had no immunity to.

    Narratives.
    We do know. That shaped where the Europeans were able to succesfully colonize vs where they avoided.

    Jared Diamond's Guns Germs and Steel makes a convincing case for the lack of local diseases and immunity being a good reason why areas such as North America were easily colonized vs. more tropical areas where the intended colonizers tended to die to tropical diseases.

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      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
      Dictators are not usually fans of reporters. Perhaps some of the perceived bias is due to news that does not support your views.
      Let me see, I said “bias of reporters on both the right and the left”. How did that statement lead to you making an assumption about my “perceived bias”? Usually in the morning as part of the news sights I read I look at CNN and Fox. If both cover the same story in a similar fashion I consider it news otherwise I discard a lot of what is said as partisan musings!

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        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        Let me see, I said “bias of reporters on both the right and the left”. How did that statement lead to you making an assumption about my “perceived bias”? Usually in the morning as part of the news sights I read I look at CNN and Fox. If both cover the same story in a similar fashion I consider it news otherwise I discard a lot of what is said as partisan musings!
        Well, obviously you have a centrist bias, where you see everything through the blinders of the exact center, able to see both sides clearly. Don't you know that only people on the extreme left don't have any biases?

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          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          We do know. That shaped where the Europeans were able to succesfully colonize vs where they avoided.

          Jared Diamond's Guns Germs and Steel makes a convincing case for the lack of local diseases and immunity being a good reason why areas such as North America were easily colonized vs. more tropical areas where the intended colonizers tended to die to tropical diseases.
          “collapse” is another good read from Diamond as is “war and peace and war” by Peter Turkin.

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            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Infection of virus is through personal contact. You would have to sneeze or throw up in a blanket and then throw it on someones face a few seconds later to infect them.

            The Vikings had contact 500 yrs before Columbus. Shouldnt that have caused a genocide.

            How do we know that Europeans we werent reverse infected with diseases they had no immunity to.

            Narratives.
            Those Vikings were Iceland and Greenland based which was isolated from mainland Europe enough already. The more settled native communities were the most affected whereas the hunter gatherers fared better.

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              Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
              “collapse” is another good read from Diamond as is “war and peace and war” by Peter Turkin.
              I haven't read either, but will keep them in mind.

              I attempted Tolstoy's War and Peace, it was intimidating.

              Another Russian novel that helps put current events in context is And Quiet Flows The Don by Sholokhov. Not that much different to what is going on now, in the same region, including the back and forth, and the consequences of being on the wrong side at the wrong time, even if it was the right side the day before. I don't usually read fiction, but historical ficton such as this can sometimes be good for perspective.

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                Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                “collapse” is another good read from Diamond as is “war and peace and war” by Peter Turkin.
                Latin America South America India were widely colonized without too much problem.

                I think the disease angle is greatly overplayed as a factor compared to steel and gun powder.

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                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  Latin America South America India were widely colonized without too much problem.

                  I think the disease angle is greatly overplayed as a factor compared to steel and gun powder.
                  If by successful, you mean the British still sent their soldiers there, but many accepted the posting as a death sentence from accounts I have read.

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                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Latin America South America India were widely colonized without too much problem.

                    I think the disease angle is greatly overplayed as a factor compared to steel and gun powder.
                    Maybe so. Who really knows definitely after first contact on the mainland but when Cortez entered Mexico he came across empty villages and remarked a sickness had taken them out. Settled farming communities along the Mississippi River were wiped out by sickness as well. Back to Cortez it is argued the massive deaths spurred the aztecs to sacrifice massive numbers of captured from neighbouring tribes to appease the gods and stop the pestilence. These tribes were only too help the Spanish overthrow Montezuma.

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                      This is a gem...
                      "I have come to the conclusion Agstar that your goal 99% of the time when you post is to trigger people period. "

                      I think the same, had a classmate in high school that often we debated politics, he always played the Liberal who I despised. He assumed a Catholic must vote Liberal. Later he admitted to always voting Conservative as well as his Evangelical parents. We both laughed.

                      But he understood my HATE of the left. He also saw the evil of socialism.

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                        Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                        This is a gem...
                        "I have come to the conclusion Agstar that your goal 99% of the time when you post is to trigger people period. "

                        I think the same, had a classmate in high school that often we debated politics, he always played the Liberal who I despised. He assumed a Catholic must vote Liberal. Later he admitted to always voting Conservative as well as his Evangelical parents. We both laughed.

                        But he understood my HATE of the left. He also saw the evil of socialism.
                        It’s alright to play devils advocate sometimes and piss off like minded people to expand our minds and confirm what we believe or think is sound. The Greeks didn’t give two shits about contradicting themselves if it meant they could gain from it.

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                          It’s a big night tonight for Danielle and really for Canada. Go Danielle!

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                            She may win the battle but go on to lose the bigger war.

                            She's such a dud she makes Kenney look good! LOL

                            She is likely to drive more voters to Notley who is already leading the poles.

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                              Well there's wishful thinking, then there's fantasy.

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