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    #41
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    So you aren't happy with the deregulated market supply and demand pricing for commodities and energy? I thought that's what you free marketers wanted most of all! LOL

    I would be happy to get 44 cents a kwh for peak prices from my solar panels because the solar supply peaks are fairly close to peak air conditioning demand in the summer and in southern states. That would make them a really good investment.
    Yup ….. in the southern states
    Last edited by furrowtickler; Aug 20, 2022, 14:33.

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      #42
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      So you aren't happy with the deregulated market supply and demand pricing for commodities and energy? I thought that's what you free marketers wanted most of all! LOL

      I would be happy to get 44 cents a kwh for peak prices from my solar panels because the solar supply peaks are fairly close to peak air conditioning demand in the summer and in southern states. That would make them a really good investment.
      Nice if it works out that way for you. Honest question between your solar array and line power would you say your power bill is zero? Couple neighbours have sizeable arrays on their farms. One is powering and heating a new shop. Other mostly residential needs. That’s what they are figuring is their power bill is about zero. That’s back feeding onto the grid.

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        #43
        chuck the best thing you could do is hook up that weak ass solar array to some under ground servers and mine some bitcoin for the world.

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          #44
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          chuck the best thing you could do is hook up that weak ass solar array to some under ground servers and mine some bitcoin for the world.
          Have to give guys credit for buggering with solar panels. I kind of liken it to people who bought outdoor boilers. Whether they burn wood, coal, bales, or horse shit it all looks great at the outset but the reality of the maintenance and repairs which arise after a time get old fast.

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            #45
            Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
            Nice if it works out that way for you. Honest question between your solar array and line power would you say your power bill is zero? Couple neighbours have sizeable arrays on their farms. One is powering and heating a new shop. Other mostly residential needs. That’s what they are figuring is their power bill is about zero. That’s back feeding onto the grid.
            If we have a year where we don't need to run our aeration fans for drying much grain then our panels cover our average usage. So yes our electricity costs can be very low under our current contract. In a wet later harvest year then our electricity costs will go up.

            Grid tied works very well because you get credit for surplus production which displaces other types of generation.

            This was all done with the approval of Sask Power.

            Instead of being a large farm user of Sask Power electricity we have become a small user just like all the other small rural farm and non farm customers who have service to a relatively remote rural location.

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              #46
              Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
              Have to give guys credit for buggering with solar panels. I kind of liken it to people who bought outdoor boilers. Whether they burn wood, coal, bales, or horse shit it all looks great at the outset but the reality of the maintenance and repairs which arise after a time get old fast.
              Gas boilers and furnaces need maintenance and replacement too.

              So let us know when you find a system that doesn't cost anything or require a bunch of labour.

              So far, after several years I haven't had a problem with our solar system.

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                #47
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                So you aren't happy with the deregulated market supply and demand pricing for commodities and energy? I thought that's what you free marketers wanted most of all! LOL

                I would be happy to get 44 cents a kwh for peak prices from my solar panels because the solar supply peaks are fairly close to peak air conditioning demand in the summer and in southern states. That would make them a really good investment.
                What you obviously missed with my post is that Alberta’s electricity generation system is transparent. You can see what each generation source is able to provide at different times of day and different times of year up to the minute. You have provided no examples of this transparency from your government owned system in Saskatchewan. What this transparency also shows as I have pointed out, switching to a lower C02 emitting grid based on solar, wind and natural gas increases not decreases the cost of electricity to the consumer! Lol!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                  What you obviously missed with my post is that Alberta’s electricity generation system is transparent. You can see what each generation source is able to provide at different times of day and different times of year up to the minute. You have provided no examples of this transparency from your government owned system in Saskatchewan. What this transparency also shows as I have pointed out, switching to a lower C02 emitting grid based on solar, wind and natural gas increases not decreases the cost of electricity to the consumer! Lol!
                  Certainly with the price of natural gas rising this is true. The good thing about solar and wind is the fuel price is zero and doesn't go up or down.

                  There will be additional system costs with integrating renewables into the system. But the generation costs of wind and solar are very competitive if not lower than competing new fossil fuel sources. That's why they re attractive investments in Alberta.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Certainly with the price of natural gas rising this is true. The good thing about solar and wind is the fuel price is zero and doesn't go up or down.

                    There will be additional system costs with integrating renewables into the system. But the generation costs of wind and solar are very competitive if not lower than competing new fossil fuel sources. That's why they re attractive investments in Alberta.
                    Actually Chuck2 renewables are attractive investments in Alberta because solar farm owners can contract directly with large end users like Amazon(who want to greenwash their businesses) and then you throw in carbon credits(a government created imaginary market) and your off to the races. Essentially Alberta has the most open electricity market in Canada, that is why renewables are being installed here.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by hamloc View Post
                      actually chuck2 renewables are attractive investments in alberta because solar farm owners can contract directly with large end users like amazon(who want to greenwash their businesses) and then you throw in carbon credits(a government created imaginary market) and your off to the races. Essentially alberta has the most open electricity market in canada, that is why renewables are being installed here.
                      bingo!

                      But why does Amazon need to greenwash?
                      Last edited by shtferbrains; Aug 21, 2022, 08:28.

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