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    #31
    As I said before, every party attracts more than enough lunatics.
    But it is only a problem when it is a right leaning party.
    The media gives a pass to the left leaning lunatics, and latches on to any and every right leaning lunatic, and smears the entire party or movement with that image.

    Case in point, the truckers convoy. Pat King hitched his horse to the convoy, and in spite of the organizers insisting he had nothing to do with it, the media painted everyone with the same brush.
    Or the single instance of inappropriate flags ( or plants depending on your perspective).

    This is why conservative leaders such as Harper or in this case Kenney have to keep their lunatics on such a short leash. Because anything they say or do will be held against all conservatives in every election until the end of time. Regardless of how tenuous their connection to the actual party may be.

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      #32
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      As I said before, every party attracts more than enough lunatics.
      But it is only a problem when it is a right leaning party.
      The media gives a pass to the left leaning lunatics, and latches on to any and every right leaning lunatic, and smears the entire party or movement with that image.

      Case in point, the truckers convoy. Pat King hitched his horse to the convoy, and in spite of the organizers insisting he had nothing to do with it, the media painted everyone with the same brush.
      Or the single instance of inappropriate flags ( or plants depending on your perspective).

      This is why conservative leaders such as Harper or in this case Kenney have to keep their lunatics on such a short leash. Because anything they say or do will be held against all conservatives in every election until the end of time. Regardless of how tenuous their connection to the actual party may be.
      We will see how embracing lunatics helps or hinders your brand with the federal coalition. Much as liberals have shifted left to make ndp irrelevant these days, siding in with them is akin to selling out their centrist support. It’s all fine and dandy until the liberals piss off Baystreet. NDP holding the balls will ensure that happens.

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        #33
        Not sure how credible of a judge Kenney is of who the lunatics are given Kenney posted this on his twitter feed this morning. Seems a little questionable for a Premier to be posting classless memes highlighting violence.
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          #34
          Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
          Not sure how credible of a judge Kenney is of who the lunatics are given Kenney posted this on his twitter feed this morning. Seems a little questionable for a Premier to be posting classless memes advocating violence.
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          https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1508460397002571776
          It was particularly tasteless and low class considering that on the same day he could have just reposted this excellent thread from the esteemed environmentalist Michael Shellenburger which sends the same message with actual facts and links instead of a silly meme.

          Unfortunately, it seems that people's attention span is so short and intellect so low, that the only way to communicate is with pictures or emoticons. Even a tweet is too long for some to comprehend, let alone an article or a book.
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Mar 28, 2022, 12:50.

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            #35
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            It was particularly tasteless and low class considering that on the same day he could have just reposted this excellent thread from the esteemed environmentalist Michael Shellenburger which sends the same message with actual facts and links instead of a silly meme.

            Unfortunately, it seems that people's attention span is so short and intellect so low, that the only way to communicate is with pictures or emoticons. Even a tweet is too long for some to comprehend, let alone an article or a book.
            Low information voters. It is unfortunate how politicians, government in general, businesses and others dummy it down for the masses. It isn’t generational neither as propaganda and advertising from the past did the same. It is disrespectful and patronizing to the populace at large to assume they’re all stupid. That said if you treat them like they’re stupid they tend to fall for it. Watch a Canadian Tire commercial. What happens if you treat your audience like they’re intelligent and don’t blow smoke up their ass? Maybe you lose the dummies but maybe you gain their respect and support. I hate being duped by propaganda or offbeat theories but the information out there has an agenda.

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              #36
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              This what I was getting at. But you still haven't addressed the blantant hypocrisy of conservatives condemning socialism but then supporting it??

              And the far right fascist and bigots on the fringes of the conservatives are far more dangerous than any other fringe group.
              Here is another article for you Chuck2 in the National Post, Chris Shelley: Maskless Ontario Liberal rally a reminder our political parties aren’t as different as they want us to think.

              A good article pointing out how a tightly packed room full of Provincial Liberal’s kicking off the upcoming campaign was for the most part maskless! More hypocrisy?

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                #37
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                As I said before, every party attracts more than enough lunatics.
                But it is only a problem when it is a right leaning party.
                The media gives a pass to the left leaning lunatics, and latches on to any and every right leaning lunatic, and smears the entire party or movement with that image..
                In todays's political climate many working, tax paying, family raising Canadians are regularly dismissed as lunatics by people of all political stripes. Jason Kenney is only one of the most recent high profile offenders. Labeling our fellow men and women as crazies is a very slippery slope. Simply an easy way to dehumanize anyone you disagree with.

                The only plausible narrative is that protesters and advocates from all sides are people with valid opinions. If their opinions lead them to commit crimes we have law enforcement and a legal system to deal with that. Sadly this narrative is outright banished and replaced with strident rhetoric, hypersensitivity and demonization. Bodes badly for democracy. If you can make people believe in absurdities (enemies are lunatics), you can make them perform atrocities. e.g. trampling peaceful protesters.
                Last edited by Happytrails; Mar 29, 2022, 19:29.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
                  In todays's political climate many working, tax paying, family raising Canadians are regularly dismissed as lunatics by people of all political stripes. Jason Kenney is only one of the most recent high profile offenders. Labeling our fellow men and women as crazies is a very slippery slope. Simply an easy way to dehumanize anyone you disagree with.

                  The only plausible narrative is that protesters and advocates from all sides are people with valid opinions. If their opinions lead them to commit crimes we have law enforcement and a legal system to deal with that. Sadly this narrative is outright banished and replaced with strident rhetoric, hypersensitivity and demonization. Bodes badly for democracy. If you can make people believe in absurdities (enemies are lunatics), you can make them perform atrocities. e.g. trampling peaceful protesters.
                  Well said. And I agree, those people are certainly not the lunatics.

                  Who I would classify as lunatic in the year 2022, are those who are still trying to take us back to 1850.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
                    In todays's political climate many working, tax paying, family raising Canadians are regularly dismissed as lunatics by people of all political stripes. Jason Kenney is only one of the most recent high profile offenders. Labeling our fellow men and women as crazies is a very slippery slope. Simply an easy way to dehumanize anyone you disagree with.

                    The only plausible narrative is that protesters and advocates from all sides are people with valid opinions. If their opinions lead them to commit crimes we have law enforcement and a legal system to deal with that. Sadly this narrative is outright banished and replaced with strident rhetoric, hypersensitivity and demonization. Bodes badly for democracy. If you can make people believe in absurdities (enemies are lunatics), you can make them perform atrocities. e.g. trampling peaceful protesters.
                    What you just described is true on all sides. And the majority of working, tax paying, family raising Canadians are moderate centre to centre left on the political spectrum. The core Conservative vote is 25 -30% of the electorate. Of which a large portion is moderate progressive Conservative.

                    But Kenney is clearly concerned about rightwing extremists taking over the UCP who are sometimes racist and white supremacists. But also the people who say WEF or Soros are controlling Canada or that Liberals are part of a pedophile organization. The list of wacky goes on.

                    So to suggest that somehow these extremists are a legitimate part of the mainstream political discussion and debate in any way is a mistake.

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                      #40
                      Ah Chucky. And to think I bypassed the ignore notification to read your reply to find that you missed the point completely. Once again, ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN OPINION and should be taken seriously.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
                        Ah Chucky. And to think I bypassed the ignore notification to read your reply to find that you missed the point completely. Once again, ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN OPINION and should be taken seriously.
                        Your statement requires a disclaimer.
                        All peoplekind have a right to an opinion except for The Fringe minority holding unacceptable views.
                        I thought they made that one quite clear.

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                          #42
                          I voted for kenny last leadership race. Later i wished Brian Jean would have got it. But after listening to him lately the last while i think i would vote for kenney. My personnal complaint with kenney is hes always blaming someone. Im hoping if he is done on the 9th that there will be others that put their name forward. I also hope they can get their act together before we have another ndp govt. Just my opinion.

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                            #43
                            Notley is trying to distance herself from her federal counterparts. Harder to do with the ndp than liberals or conservatives. If she truly speaks for Alberta maybe a name change and decoupling from the federal party. I quite doubt it’ll happen but if she wants to be taken seriously she should do that and not have the picture of health for the health minister again. Even better the liberals ndp Alberta party team up and start a party. It’s a two party race anyway. Putin loves to have lots of parties. Something like 60 opposition parties in Russia.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by katoe View Post
                              I voted for kenny last leadership race. .
                              The people of Alberta are telling Kenny (and others) that its time to fight. And he is not getting it because he someone wants to be Canadas saviour. There is no saving this.

                              Trudeau just announced emissions reductions of 43% for AB and 23% for Ontario. He is coming up with a hard cap on the sands and raising carbon taxes and siphoning more equalization money into Quebec and buying votes with it and forged a coalition made in hell with the NDP.

                              I mean whats left to say here. The wagging of fingers at the podium is over. Time to strike back and Jean looks like he is ready to do just that.

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