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    Putin Loses His Cool When Confronted Over Ukraine, Claims It Belongs to Lenin Anyway

    Sky News Reporter annoys Putin;
    "...Allison Quinn
    Thu, December 23, 2021, 3:58 AM The Daily Beast

    Vladimir Putin’s normally predictable annual press conference briefly veered off the rails Thursday when the Russian president appeared to lose his cool after being questioned about Moscow’s aggression in Ukraine.

    When a reporter for Sky News asked whether Moscow could give security guarantees and promise not to invade its neighbor, Putin exploded: “You are demanding guarantees from us? It’s you who should give us guarantees. Immediately. Right now. And not talk it over for decades.”

    His comments came as Ukraine released satellite images it said showed more Russian forces building up at its border, and the Russian Defense Ministry announced massive “attack” drills in Crimea.

    Moscow has repeatedly claimed the moves are in response to what it sees as the threat of an expanding NATO, while Western officials view the Kremlin’s saber-rattling as a form of coercive diplomacy through which it hopes to keep its grip on Ukraine.

    Putin repeatedly portrayed Russia as the victim at his press conference, claiming Moscow had been dragged into the Ukraine conflict when it is really just a “mediator.”

    “They want to make us a party to the conflict, and it’s not like that,” he said. (Apparently in his view it was not the Russian forces seizing Crimea in 2014, the years of Kremlin propaganda, Russian support for separatists, and the reported weapons supplies that made Russia a party to the conflict.)

    He accused NATO of being the true aggressor, appearing to briefly seethe as he suggested the West has always sought to destroy Russia.

    “They tricked us. Just cheated us. Five waves of NATO enlargement,” he said.

    “And on top of that—no matter what we did, you always expressed ‘concerns.’ Get out of here with your ‘concerns.’ We will do what we consider necessary. We want to ensure our safety,” he said.

    Later in the conference, Putin said there was an overall “positive response” from the U.S. to the Kremlin’s “red line” proposals on NATO.

    “Our American partners say they’re ready to start discussions early next year in Geneva. Both sides have named representatives and I hope that things will continue along the same path,” he said.

    “Our actions will depend on the situation in the sphere of security. We made clear that the further expansion of NATO in the East is not acceptable. We’re not the ones who came to the States with missiles. They’re the ones setting up missiles right on our doorstep,” he said.

    “And what if we set up missiles on the border of the U.S. and Canada? Or Mexico?”

    Visibly angry, he went on to vent frustration over the idea of a sovereign Ukraine, suggesting the country actually belongs to Vladimir Lenin.

    “And who did California belong to?” he asked, apparently referring to California being part of Mexico prior to the Mexican-American War.

    “And Texas? Did they forget that or something? Well okay, everyone has forgotten, and they don’t remember the way they now remember about Crimea. We also don’t remember who created Ukraine–Lenin Vladimir Ilyich, when he created the Soviet Union.”


    https://ca.yahoo.com/news/putin-loses-cool-confronted-over-115824324.html

    #2
    I beg to differ, Mr. Putin. Let's go back a little further, shall we?

    1-100 AD - Romans establish their presence in the Greek colonies; the Don River is identified as the eastern border of Europe, leaving present-day Ukrainian territories on the European side of the Europe-Asia divide. And even before that, 750-500 BC, Greek trading colonies were established on the northern shore of the Black Sea, including Crimea.

    Hey, but way to go, throwing the west's wokeness back in its' face.

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      #3
      Originally posted by wiseguy
      Putin has a brain unlike justine !

      Talked to my Russian friend she says western media talking nonsense !
      Ironic you would say that...

      "Trudeau belongs on Santa’s naughty list, alongside Chinese and Russian leaders: poll
      Thu, December 23, 2021, 5:19 AM
      A new poll conducted exclusively for Global News by Ipsos shows Prime Minister Justin Trudeau joins Russian President Vladimir Putin at the top of Canadians' list for who should get a lump of coal from Santa this Christmas. Meanwhile, health-care workers and Canadian actor Ryan Reynolds top the nice list."

      https://ca.yahoo.com/news/trudeau-belongs-santa-naughty-list-131918366.html

      Business Insider

      Former US ambassador to Russia says Putin's 'acting crazy' over Ukraine and it's getting 'scary'
      John Haltiwanger
      Wed, December 22, 2021, 8:52 AM

      The former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, is raising alarm about Putin's rhetoric toward Ukraine.

      If Putin is "trying to scare us by acting crazy," then he's "succeeding [with] me," McFaul said.

      Putin is blaming the West for tensions over Ukraine, despite the fact Russia has been the primary aggressor.

      Former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul on Tuesday said Russian President Vladimir Putin's increasingly hostile rhetoric towards Ukraine is frightening him and strikes a distinctly unsettling tone.

      If Putin is "trying to scare us by acting crazy," then he's "succeeding [with] me," McFaul said in a tweet.

      "I've listened to more Putin speeches than most. I've been in meetings with him for five years," McFaul said of Putin's remarks on Tuesday. "This speech is something different — Putin's list of completely fabricated threats here is truly striking ... and scary."

      This came in response to a speech in which Putin blamed NATO and the US for recent tensions over Ukraine, while threatening to take "adequate military-technical response measures" in response to "unfriendly steps."

      "What the US is doing in Ukraine is at our doorstep ... And they should understand that we have nowhere further to retreat to. Do they think we'll just watch idly?" Putin said, per Reuters.

      As Putin ramped up the threats on Tuesday, Russia's defense minister baselessly claimed that US mercenaries were in eastern Ukraine and preparing a chemical weapons attack. McFaul dismissed this as "completely nuts."

      Experts say that Putin has manufactured the crisis with Ukraine, a former Soviet republic, and is blaming the West for tensions catalyzed by the Kremlin's aggression. In short, he's looking for an excuse to invade.

      Evelyn Farkas, who served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine, and Eurasia under the Obama administration, in a tweet on Tuesday said that Putin "just declared war on Ukraine (pretending it's war against the US and its allies, provoked by us)."

      Putin invaded and unilaterally annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, and has supported separatists in a war against Ukrainian troops in the eastern Donbass region since that year. Russia denies involvement in the conflict, despite considerable evidence to the contrary. The war has claimed over 13,000 lives.

      And for the second time this year, Putin has sparked fears of an invasion by amassing a sizeable force on Ukraine's border. Meanwhile, Putin continues to behave as if Russia is the victim, portraying NATO's growing influence in Ukraine as an existential threat. He's accused the alliance of disrespecting his "red lines" in Ukraine, while ignoring the fact that Russian aggression in the region produced the hostilities that Putin is now threatening war over.

      Russia's annexation of Crimea and the Donbass war pushed Ukraine closer to the West. Though Ukraine is not a NATO member, it has sought to join the alliance for years. NATO members, including the US, have provided Ukraine with an array of military assistance — including training and weapons like Javelin anti-tank missiles.

      The Biden administration says it's unclear whether or not Putin will invade, but has warned a Russian military incursion in Ukraine would lead to massive economic consequences. Still, President Joe Biden recently made clear that deploying US troops to respond to a Russian invasion was not on the table.

      Russia in recent days has issued a series of demands that NATO and the US promptly dismissed, including a hard commitment that Ukraine and Georgia will never become part of the alliance.

      Read the original article on Business Insider"

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        #4
        Originally posted by wiseguy
        Putin has a brain unlike justine !

        Talked to my Russian friend she says western media talking nonsense !
        Is Germany aligning with Putin and Russia?

        WSJ: OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK
        Germany’s Energy Surrender
        Rarely has a country worked so hard to make itself vulnerable.
        By The Editorial Board
        Dec. 22, 2021 6:52 pm E
        One might expect that a country suffering a generational energy crunch would be trying everything possible to expand supply. Yet Germany is proceeding with the closure of three nuclear power plants—around half of the country’s nuclear power generation—by the end of the year.

        Ten years ago 17 nuclear reactors produced about a quarter of Germany’s electricity, but the 2011 Fukushima accident prompted former Chancellor Angela Merkel to phase out nuclear. Six reactors remain: Three will close this month, with the remaining three ceasing operations next year. It’s hard to think of a more self-defeating policy on economic, climate and geopolitical grounds.

        The closures have been expected for years, but keeping the reactors open for their previously planned lifetimes could have helped alleviate some of the pain Germans are feeling now as rising global demand drives up the cost of energy. German one-year forward electricity prices have hit €300 per megawatt hour. For comparison, the 2010 to 2020 average was under €50 per megawatt hour.

        The antinuclear move has support from many of Germany’s climate-change obsessives, but abandoning carbon-free nuclear power has had predictable results on emissions. Coal was the country’s top energy source in the first half of 2021, generating more than a quarter of Germany’s electricity. Wind and solar produced 22% and 9%, respectively, as nuclear has fallen to around 12%.

        France, which relies heavily on nuclear power, puts out about half as much carbon dioxide per capita as Germany. The French also are coping with high energy prices as a result of nuclear outages and greater exposure to skyrocketing natural gas prices. But Paris is responding by building more nuclear reactors.

        Berlin—at the self-made mercy of the sun and wind—is now deepening its reliance on Russian gas to keep the lights on. This is the background explanation for its weak response to Russia’s aggression in Ukraine. Germany’s staunch support for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia, despite opposition from allies, undermines the West’s response to Vladimir Putin’s designs to dominate Eastern Europe.

        Germany is now pushing to keep nuclear power off the European Union’s list of “environmentally sustainable economic activities,” a designation that could lower the cost of financing nuclear projects. It’s bad enough that the Germans have undermined their own energy security, but they shouldn’t foist their self-destructive policy on the rest of the Continent."

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          #5
          Putin is desperate to start a war and blame it on someone else but people are not buying his dezinformatsiya. You cry wolf and bs all the time eventually people don’t believe anything you say. Europe is so screwed relying on their energy from this tyrant and his oligarchs like we are dependent on a tyrant and his slave labour for manufactured goods. Though a change of tone in Putin to that of desperation makes one think his house of cards is a bit shaky.

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            #6
            Originally posted by wiseguy
            Asked Russian friend if she has seen troops on Russian/Ukraine border she says no !

            She says there is always military excises happening !

            Remember Ukraine was Russia's not that long ago and Russian friend is very patriotic !

            God bless Soviet Capalists !
            Since when has Ukraine been a friend of Putin?

            God Bless Putin, what F uck have you been smoking Wiseguy?

            Go farm their and see what you'll have!

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              #7
              Don't know if I have ever seen the US look as weak due to leadership.

              If one of the many tyrants steps out it will flare up all over.

              Police have to have respect to function.

              Might just buy my wife a gun for Christmas.

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                #8
                Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                Don't know if I have ever seen the US look as weak due to leadership.

                If one of the many tyrants steps out it will flare up all over.

                Police have to have respect to function.

                Might just buy my wife a gun for Christmas.
                We have installed a really good 24/7/365 security system[multiple cameras, playback easy to access], with a good dog or two... really good security tools that can't be beat.

                Cheers

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                  We have installed a really good 24/7/365 security system[multiple cameras, playback easy to access], with a good dog or two... really good security tools that can't be beat.

                  Cheers
                  Was looking at some yesterday.
                  How far from the base can you place the cameras with wifi?

                  Do you pay subscription?

                  Sorry for the hijack but not much activity.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                    Since when has Ukraine been a friend of Putin?

                    God Bless Putin, what




















                    have you been smoking Wiseguy?

                    Go farm their and see what you'll have!


                    Interesting history article... NPR:

                    How the Soviet Union's collapse explains the current Russia-Ukraine tension


                    December 24, 20216:01 AM ET
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                    Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev closes his resignation speech after delivering it at the Kremlin in Moscow on Dec. 25, 1991. After 74 years, the Soviet Union was dissolved, breaking into 15 countries. But there's often been friction among the former Soviet republics, including the current confrontation between Russia and Ukraine.
                    Liu Heung Shing/AP
                    On Christmas Day 1991, Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev sat down at a table deep inside the Kremlin and prepared to deliver a monumental speech. Associated Press reporter Alan Cooperman was among the few journalists allowed in.

                    "We were ushered down into some kind of underground chamber where they had a formal television studio with those big, Soviet-era tripods and huge cameras." Cooperman recalled. "We sat there for a while and then Gorbachev came in."

                    Cooperman and AP photographer Liu Heung Shing were sternly warned not to ask questions or take pictures.

                    "It was an extraordinary speech. I remember thinking that Gorbachev looked very tired," Cooperman said. "He expressed trepidation about the future. But I thought he just seemed relieved."

                    Gorbachev announced that after 74 years as one of the world's most powerful nations, the Soviet Union no longer existed, and would break up in 15 separate countries.

                    As Gorbachev finished speaking, Liu ignored the warning he'd been given and quickly snapped a photo that became an iconic image: Gorbachev closing the folder that held his speech, marking the end of the Soviet empire.

                    EUROPE
                    In times of crisis — or to create one — Russia's Putin turns to his military

                    Seconds later, a Soviet security official approached Liu and "slugged him, hard, right in the stomach," Cooperman said.

                    But he had the photo. The journalists were whisked out of the room and down a hallway. They saw Soviet officials walk by with huge, red Soviet flags, emblazoned with the gold hammer and sickle.

                    As Cooperman exited the Kremlin and looked at the Moscow night sky, he suddenly realized what he'd just seen.

                    "They were carrying the flags that had just been removed from the flagposts above the Kremlin. And you can see it at night because those flagposts were always illuminated," Cooperman said.

                    The flags were gone, and so was the Soviet Union.


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                    Russian President Vladimir Putin holds a news conference Thursday at the Kremlin. He said Russia wasn't planning to invade Ukraine. He blamed NATO for tensions in the region, saying the alliance should give guarantees that it will stop expanding in Eastern Europe and that it will never admit Ukraine.
                    Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP
                    Friction from 1991 until today

                    If this was just a history story, we could note the 30th anniversary of the Soviet collapse this weekend and stop right there. But you can draw a straight line from that historic day to the confrontation now playing out on the Russia-Ukraine border. Russia has an estimated 100,000 troops massed near the frontier, including tanks and heavy artillery.

                    Russia and Ukraine have a shared — and often turbulent — history that stretches back 1,000 years. And they've never entirely untangled that history and gone their separate ways.

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                    "People have short memories," said Vladislav Zubok, a Russian historian who teaches at the London School of Economics. He's also the author of a new book, Collapse: The Fall of the Soviet Union.

                    Why Russia-Ukraine tensions have again reached a boiling point
                    EUROPE
                    Why Russia-Ukraine tensions have again reached a boiling point
                    "The story of Ukrainian-Russian tensions go all the way back to the rapid and unexpected collapse of the Soviet Union," said Zubok.


                    The collapse meant thousands of Soviet nuclear weapons were spread across four of the newly formed states, including Russia and Ukraine.

                    Russia kept its nukes. Ukraine gave up its arsenal in 1994 in exchange for a promise from Russia and others that its borders would not be violated.

                    It seemed like a win-win. But Zubok says the reality proved much more complicated.


                    "When empires of big states collapse suddenly, history produces a lot of flotsam and jetsam, a lot of debris that blocks not just good relations, but block even understanding between the countries," he said."

                    https://www.npr.org/2021/12/24/1066861022/how-the-soviet-unions-collapse-explains-the-current-russia-ukraine-tension

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                      #11
                      Tom. Who did your install and who does after sale support? I have a good system idle for lack of support.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                        Tom. Who did your install and who does after sale support? I have a good system idle for lack of support.
                        Eves at Comsec in Camrose... we are doing mostly our own work now... many techies in our crew who are proficient at M and R of the systems Eves:780-678-7696C Work 672-2277

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