Fertilizing sick peas

**Klause** · Jun 21, 2016, 23:30

Headline humalite and a foliar like releaf plus a gallon or 2 of ams.

Not cheap. Should put the releaf in with the odessey... imho anyway and my opinion is worth $0.01

I had too much beer tonight humph

**furrowtickler** · Jun 22, 2016, 05:07

Try some straight Ligno humate on some $3.50 / AC . Might work just as well - much cheaper . At this stage maybe just driving root health will be all that is needed .
One other product that may work , but I Duno for sure is eezegrow , it's a plant hormone

**farmaholic** · Jun 22, 2016, 06:53

What ever happened to the old phloem and xylem system where these two plant tissues move nutrients and what ever up and down the plants. Or are roots only a one way street? Seems I can't remember my grade 10 biology!!

What ever the case it seems Mother Nature ultimately rules...looks like rain here in the June Monsoon forecast for this weekend, again, maybe it will change. Saying "rain" for Sunday and a chance for Saturday.

What a powerless way to make a living. Had .17 of an inch last night.

**farmaholic** · Jun 22, 2016, 07:07

Seems no one is pushing those "unconventional" products around here.

Maybe there needs to be a better understanding of plants physiology and some of the unconventional products and practices might be adopted more readily.

How much of what would need to be applied to encourage and promote better root health?

What kind of containers does ligno humate come in and where do you get it?

Bayer has some sort of foliar phos product out.

How can so little make a difference, but then look what how many grams per acre of herbicide can do.

**Rareearth** · Jun 22, 2016, 07:24

Dig up a few plants good ones, maybe and yellow. You will notice the yellow ones very few nodules, very few roots with no fine roots compared to the good healthy ones.

I don't think the yellow ones will come back as they are very damaged. We will learn more after this year as all water runs and pot holes have yellowed plants, -5% of total acres?

**poorboy** · Jun 22, 2016, 07:53

Where do you go to buy ligno humate in Alberta and British Columbia?

**furrowtickler** · Jun 22, 2016, 07:53

Farma - 1/2 ltr / AC
Comes in 1000 ltr totes.
Call Darrel at 204-483-2774 , he will help source you what you may need
I agree with rare earth - plants with no root system left are toast and will only get worse - those cases don't spend any money , it will be a waste IMO
The liquid treflan we applied with burn off has supressed the root rot in our fields a lot , only where water was standing before seeding is where I can find any root rot .
Learned from the last two years , treflan and very early plant nutrition ( in furrow liquid orthophosphate ) is the only thing that may help supress root rot . There are some new seed treatments but the jury still out.
Oh - and eliminate herbicide damage , you can't shut down those plants at all.
But all bets are off no matter if it stays wet / mud

**furrowtickler** · Jun 22, 2016, 10:51

Very few of the big retailers or Chem company's will even think of endorsing some of theses "unconventional " products . They would not be able to hose you of over priced fungicide .
These "unconventional " products interup the money train for them

**furrowtickler** · Jun 22, 2016, 11:02

There is a good understanding out plant health out there - but it gets past off as snake oil by those who don't understand or line company's who's bottom line is affected by sales of conventional products

Fertilizing sick peas