Why as farmers do we like to overpay!

[JDGreen]

I think you nailed it on the head jagfarms.. I am involved with other business and that is exactly how we treat these types of farmers/customers. I've seen some boys with big britches pretty sad when the new kids on the block are paying less than they are

[may-be]

Reread what I wrote. New kids on the block or loyal people around hear do not pay less. The dealerships finely got competitive with what I can get elsewere. I agree that some farmers goe overboard shopping around, but some sure get taken for a ride by not shopping around. Only a fool will quote a new customer a higher price unless that known person could give you headaches. Or maybe he's not a fool and we are headed to protected territories.
I for one do not like to overpay.

[JDGreen]

reread what i said . Those are facts not just what your feeling or speculating.. Ive seen it time and time again...

[cchurch]

Everyone's got their hands in the farmers pockets.

[may-be]

This was my first hand experiance when I was the new kid on the block. Make a reasonable offer on a piece of equip and they cannot do it. Then sell it to another guy a week or two later for a few thousand less than i offered. Took them to long to realize I was not going to overpay because of thier easy credit. See first hand same people getting took all the time. If I was buying large new equip I would pay extra to buy local for the after sales support. They are the ones that get looked after very well( this could be speculating as I have no solid proof of this). If you think i am assumeing the rest, that is only your opinion.

[JDGreen]

Isee your point and understand your frustration...

[ado089]

My experiece is that sometimes paying hundreds more at times saves me thousands more at other times. SF3 what do you think it should cost to carry inventory, take on credit risk, provide educated recomendations, keep the doors open 18hrs 7days a week incase on Sunday night you decide to switch from the $100/jug Buctril M to the $98/jug Badge because it's a better deal. You consistently whine about how everyone else in the system in making so much money, how about the last couple of years with high yields and high prices, people might argue that you were making too much money. I'm pretty sure when the grain buyer offered you $14/bu you didn't tell hime that was too high and that $9/bu would be enough. Grow up! It's not your god given right to farm. Farming because it's a way of life, hobby, or beacuse it's all you know how to do doesn't cut it anymore. Farming is a multi-million dollar buisness and if you're best buisness plan for sucess is nickel and diming your supplier you're probably in for a rude awakening. If you want to make a difference on the bottom line focus where real dollars can be made or lost like marketing/hedging, risk management, production effeiciencies/techniques, tax planning, labor costs...

[JDGreen]

xclent post ado89 , as much as i agree with your post i do not respect the fact that SF3 is singled out as a nickel and dimer as he most certainly is no different than 95% of producers. Therefore he is the "norm.", and we are all no different in many respects.. But to concentrate efforts on some very important areas of your farm business as you suggest is truly where much more money is made than wasting all your efforts trying to save a few cents on glypho or buctril..

[ado089]

I may have been a bit harsh. I usualy respect sf3 as good source of info and for having a good handle on current events. It just seems lately there is alot of complaining about buisneses making money. Last time I checked that was the goal of operating one. It's no ones responsability to make sure we can grow cheap food anymore than it's our responsibility to grow it. As I'm combining my canola that's been frozen, chewed on, dried out, and choked out by wild oats and cleavers and it's still running in the high 40's I'm reminded of what the industry has given back. 15 years ago 40 would have probably been out of reach on a good year, never mind a crap year like this.

[DogPatch]

Excellent post ado.....

I read somewhere that should the price of glyphosate go to where the "experts" think that most local dealers will stop handling the product.

We've seen the post of cheap supplies of Chinese glyphos, but we need to remember that there still is adjuvant, packaging, carriers, anti-foamers etc etc that are needed to make it a useable product. (Never mind all the legal costs) If we want the cheap product, then we will have to expect to see less service, less inventory etc at a local level.