One field will make it!

[Hopperbin]

Sure we can learn so get a god dam organic grain marketing forum on here.
Or an organic farming forum. Take that lightly I hope but I do have a point.

[gregpet]

If I recall correctly they are taking the lead out of the computers and poisining themselves. If those are the smart ones I'll stay stupid for my own health.

[parsley]

Rambling was not a mistep.

I shifted, slightly, because, gregpet, in the long term, and overviewing, holistic is both directly and indirectly tied to profit/money... tied to sustainability and futurial value of family farms. Canadian owned. imho.

But you shpould surely use your thread to write about important things like CWB rain gauges. LOL ....I will hop on the Wheat Board single desk another time, so that your sensibilities are not so pinched by the hitch on my organic bandwagon. lol Pars

[Hopperbin]

Parsley I hope we don't ever develope ill will to each other. I respect you for how you stand up and carry yourself among us conventional farmers when discussing organic and chemical issues.
Hope to some day tour and learn from your families practices.

[parsley]

My sensibilities are not bruised at all. I very much enjoy the different approaches AVers have to farming and to life.

The most astounding moment in my life was when I visited the Museum of Natural History in New york City and saw the progressive stages of the remains of archeological digs of human beings, all lined up in a row, showing how we have evolved. Showing how similar we are. How we are one.

Being human, at that moment, was being so fragile; was lending each observer a moment of appreciation for being a primate.

We're all different, but we are all the same. As are farmers.

And that my friends, really IS something worthwhile to celebrate, but absolutely nothing to be pissy about. Pars

[cottonpicken]

Kind of like watching a sunset on a stimulant one night a depressent the next and a hallusnagenic the third.

Same sun,same you,but really,really different.

[parsley]

well said cott

[Hopperbin]

Got an idea, pars should make some organic wine and invite some agvillers over for 5 dollars glass or coffee mug full. I would really like to see a sunset about now, god dam cloudy these days.

[Hopperbin]

Ok I don't care how much a glass. Sorry if I dissapointed you before.

[Fransisco]

If you think that price is my only criteria then you're not paying close enough attention to the arguments.

The original argument was a sprayed crop vs an unsprayed crop. Everything else supposedly was the same.

I look at value. Price is only one factor in value. As far as I'm concerned there is no difference nutritionally or toxilogically between the two. Some people think there is and are willing to pay more for it.

The same goes for suits and pickup trucks. Are you going to pay an extra $5000 for a truck with an extra bell or whistle? Some people will because they have to have every little thing, others will say "no thanks $5000 for GPS locaters on tire stems just doesn't sound like good value."

I'm looking at growing the highest quality crop for the lowest possible price. Yes I'm going to try and sell it for as high a price as I can but I'm still going to try and grow it for the least amount of money that I can. And so is everyone else, including the organic growers. I don't care what system you're using productivity and efficiency matter and that is the only way you are going to be able to provide real value to your customer and not just a higher price.