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  • Fransisco
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 3859

    Fixed Price= Pooled Price?

    Was reading in the seducer that the CWB's fixed price contract has a pooled price componenent in it?

    Anybody know what this is or how this works? I thought the price quoted was the price you got.
  • BennyHin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 259

    #2
    How is the pig basis calculated in Manitoba? Transparency, think not.

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    • just_wondering
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 509

      #3
      Here's another example of the aussies kicking our ass.
      Imagine packaging Grain the way the customer wants it, rather than the "one size fits all" Canadian approach. Even when we did ship barley to the Aussies, we sent them our poorest quality stuff. I can't wait until August 1, 2007 when we can say to the World that Canada is now open for business.
      We'll ship it to you however you like -- bags, containers, vessel, whatever. You tell us, you're the customer.

      I realy like the idea of putting a Canadian Flag on the Bags. If you did not know the Bedouins are the Saudi Army's feet on the ground.

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      • lakenheath
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 541

        #4
        Good analogy Benny. Pigs vs Wheat. Basis vs something called a basis. I can't believe you can stick up for every damned thing that the board does. You tell me how the CWB basis make sense.

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        • Fransisco
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 3859

          #5
          I just want to know what it has to do with the pool? Anyone?

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          • padron
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 104

            #6
            Smart move on the part of the Aussies to tie up one of the largest buyers with cold hard cash for the next 5 years. If anyone thinks the timing of this and the pending dual market on August 1 for Canadian barley is a coincidence you are dreaming. Sounds like there is still room for more volume to this customer and there are other international buyers including the USA. The best is yet to come for barley growers.

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            • Fransisco
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 3859

              #7
              Has anybody gotten paid less than the quoted FPC price when all was said and done?

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              • btjadenlepp
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 290

                #8
                we've never been paid less than what the fpc we've locked in works out to. but you know, the timing of when you apply your deliveries to an fpc and cash out of the pools can very much affect your grade spread, as compared to leaving the same grade in the pool and waiting for the final payment on it. the spreads in the initials, say between a 1-13.5 and a 3, or 13.5 vs. 15.5 protein, are adjusted by around $20/t over the course of the year.

                i can't find the article you're referring to. can you post the page and issue?

                i've always treated premiums in the fpc over the pro as good sell opportunities, mainly because they don't last long.

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                • kamichel
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 631

                  #9
                  I think it just has something to do with how the basis is calculated in the first place, basis has a pooled component. But when you price then that is the price you get. Unless your delivery location changes the ellevation, cleaning, etc.

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                  • charliep
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 9002

                    #10
                    Fransisco

                    I think the Western Producer may have been referring to the adjustment factor. That is, the adjustment for wheat that has already been priced in the pools on the date you sign the contract (if after August 1).

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