Fertilizer and other things

[Grain Farmer]

Something to be said for fall applied N.
most yrs it's way cheaper.

[makar]

Something to be said for fall applied N.
most yrs it's way cheaper.

Except when the spreader guy runs out before he is done the field and goes home forgetting to tell you but right on the ball with the bill.

[fjlip]

"Seriously we have retards running this country"

I'd say pure EVIL treasonous bastards, nefarious plan for 10 years! Soon to conclude with KING Mark da first!

[farmaholic]

Seems canola is the only thing that went on a run. Wheat sucks. Peas kinda suck. Lentils suck the big one.

I have sympathy for any grower who hasn't bought fert yet, sometimes some people just can't buy it when it's at its cheapest. Having to sell crop to pay for the fert used to grow it let alone pay for next year's 6 months in advance of needing it.

[Hamloc]

I dont understand why anyone would think that having localized fertilizer plants producing here in the prairies would change anything OTHER than supply.

Does anyone think that price would be lower if we had 3 nutriens producing urea in red deer?
its all priced out of new orleans and with a globalized economy ...that means these hiccups affect everything. Case in point... diesel.
Northwest upgrader is producing diesel right here outside of edmonton. Do we get a cheaper price? Lol.

If 100 Farmers got together and built a urea plant... you think that somehow the urea would become cheaper....but only in a localized area? Mmm no. Sorry. Those days have passed.

I understand that supply and demand dictate...but when everything is priced by traders who are running on cocaine and rumors.. we dont stand a chance. Plus.. why would those farmers want cheaper urea, when they could just make more per unit selling it at market value than using it in their own field.

Its the same thing can be said about crop values. You cant really have it both ways.

India has a poor crop.... pulse prices will increase...

i fear that the " lowering ANY costs" by production ship...has long since sailed.

And as for australia shipping to quebec.. its just cheaper. If all the workers and builders of LNG pipelines were willing to work for peanuts.. then yeah, maybe a pipeline could get built. But i dont know many of my buddies here in fort sask who are welders in the oil patch that are going to work for * checks web* 20 to 30 k per yr like a chinese welder does!

We cant build a hospital in 2 weeks because our labour isnt slave labour.
the approval process/ site selection...etc.. can definitely be streamlined to shorten the build times down....but things need to be done properly and transparently. Otherwise... everyone and their dog will whine about.. brookfield...P3 school building schemes...... snc lavalin...etc.

Seriously tho... we all KNOW a revamped railroad to churchill would help western canadian farmers... so if brookfield stepped up and financed the whole thing..who cares?

if the indigenous people want to throw a bid in and build it? Great.
Use their dollars...regardless of how they got them.

Also... i hear guys whining about the cost of fertilizer ( it sucks...i agree) but none of us are cheering the increased price of commodities...

Increased price of commodities? Yup canola is up for sure. How much you have left to sell? Me about 10-15%. Oil is up. You have mineral rights? I don’t, just increases fuel for spring. Wheat on futures is up, elevator companies simply compensated by widening the basis. Fertilizer is in the bin. So yup you can accuse me of whining, one of your most common comments is how us farmers unnecessarily whine.

[blackpowder]

Those 100 farmers would have to kick in about $100M each.
Now ship the product for export every day.

Churchill a dead horse the day it was built. A Cold War political relic. Has to be kept open year round. Now build an all new port facility.

Hell, we can't even double track to Van or unload fast enough when it gets there.

There are sound reasons why Nutrien chose Longview.

And we can't even agree on spending <$1/t on a professional voice.

[blackpowder]

Better off with your own Green Lightning plant or similar. IF that even works