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Originally posted by bucket View PostCanada should be self sufficient in fertilizer and fuel . But no one wants to build here do to the current regulations. Has nothing to do with trump. This is all just " because they can" . Whether is it is FCL ( coop ) or Nutrien, or Mosaic using excuses of the straight of Hormus or the Ukraine money laundering.
Sortof tired of hearing it is Trump's fault when we have the ability to build here and avoid gouging that happens when ever an excuse comes along.
Maybe the regulations about collusion should be brought back. At least the Trump administration have said they are looking into it.
I might be reading you wrong, but are you suggesting a two tiered pricing system for Fert and Fuel produced in Canada, a Canadian price for Canadian farmers and a world price for export?
Since Feb,28/2026 Fert and Fuel prices are up in the range of 40-60%, I didn't realize Ukraine bombed Iran.
I like how you mentioned Trump and collusion in two seperate sentences. Read :
Betting on War: Mysterious Traders Make Millions on Well-Timed Bets Tied to Trump’s War on Iran
Who did you think is profiting off of that?
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If Canada was using the resources we have , Iran's power on fertilizer could be mitigated, which would lower fertilizer prices. Same with fuel.Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
I might be reading you wrong, but are you suggesting a two tiered pricing system for Fert and Fuel produced in Canada, a Canadian price for Canadian farmers and a world price for export?
Since Feb,28/2026 Fert and Fuel prices are up in the range of 40-60%, I didn't realize Ukraine bombed Iran.
I like how you mentioned Trump and collusion in two seperate sentences. Read :
Betting on War: Mysterious Traders Make Millions on Well-Timed Bets Tied to Trump’s War on Iran
Who did you think is profiting off of that?
I think Saudi Arabia has a lower domestic fuel price.
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There are still 2 wars that include much the same supply reductions?Originally posted by foragefarmer View PostSince Feb,28/2026 Fert and Fuel prices are up in the range of 40-60%, I didn't realize Ukraine bombed Iran[/B]
Who did you think is profiting off of that?
Ukraine has been bombing Putin's O&G production and tankers?
Russia is the worlds largest fertilizer exporter. Ukraine is also a large producer.
Yuzhny (Black Sea) was a benchmark for ammonia pricing but the NH3 pipeline and infrastructure was damaged in 2022. That alone was 2.5 mil T.
I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but seems to be conveniently ignored?
IMHO the fertilizer market, and most inputs, in western Canada and NA, operates as an oligopoly.
Defined as a few large firms that control most of the market, allowing them to influence prices and supply.
Not news to anyone.
When there are geopolitical situations like Russian tariffs and Iran it shift all the power to a small group.
We get sucked up in it and ask for more restrictions that eliminate any small competitors that need alternate supply.
Last edited by shtferbrains; May 4, 2026, 10:30.
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What's causing USA fuel prices to increase by 40% since the Trump's failed bombing mission on Iran?Originally posted by bucket View Post
If Canada was using the resources we have , Iran's power on fertilizer could be mitigated, which would lower fertilizer prices. Same with fuel.
I think Saudi Arabia has a lower domestic fuel price.
The USA has plenty of it's own oil, and only imports from Canada because of their refineries, no Middle East oil required, so why would the global price surge have an effect on the USA pump prices.
Why isn't there price mitgation for the USA citizens?
Eating Crow would be tough on a few Agriville's this late in the game, so let's blame it on Ukraine and Canada rather than Putin and Trump.Last edited by foragefarmer; May 4, 2026, 10:05.
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I think there is no doubt that Trump didn’t look past about day 3 or 4 of his invasion. He is attempting to find an exit strategy in which this doesn’t look like a total failure.Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
What's causing USA fuel prices to increase by 40% since the Trump's failed bombing mission on Iran?
The USA has plenty of it's own oil, and only imports from Canada because of their refineries, no Middle East oil required, so why would the global price surge have an effect on the USA pump prices.
Why isn't there price mitgation for the USA citizens?
Eating Crow would be tough on a few Agriville's this late in the game, so let's blame it on Ukraine and Canada rather than Putin and Trump.
Quote from a CBC article on the latest fiscal update: “Surging oil prices are one of the factors that led to a better-than-expected fiscal update from the federal government on Tuesday.”
So mixed results. For the average farmer and average consumer the extreme rise in fuel prices is going to hurt.
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