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  • Fransisco
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 3859

    Democracy Lovers

    I guess it shouldn't be surprising but it is still galling to see how many of the die-hard majority rule folks now suddenly don't believe in democracy.

    They have no use for property rights and said time and time again, lets have a vote. Well we did and choice won, live with it, at least stick to your own principles.

    A notable exception is David Rolfe from Kap, he is accepting the results.
  • chaffmeister
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2001
    • 1208

    #2
    What is even more galling is Ritter's approach.

    Says he's not surprised by the plebiscite results; says they're consistent with the CWB's own surveys they've done for years now.

    But then he goes on to say that the CWB is pursuing legal avenues to fight the government decision to give farmers what they have said they want - choice. Spending your money to stop you from getting what you've asked for.

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    • Fransisco
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 3859

      #3
      It's back to the elitist default position. We(Ritter and company)know best and the rest of you don't matter.

      Rights don't matter, evidence doesn't matter, democracy doesn't matter, respect for others doesnt matter.

      This is getting down right pathological.

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      • parsley
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2000
        • 10986

        #4
        National Post
        29 March 2007
        Financial Post

        Wheat Board may challenge loss of export barley monopoly; Ottawa vows changes

        WINNIPEG - The Canadian Wheat Board will consider all options -- including a legal challenge -- to respond to Ottawa's plan to end its monopoly on malting and export barley, the chairman of the CWB's board of directors said yesterday.

        Chuck Strahl, the Agriculture Minister, said he plans to remove the CWB's monopoly on malting and export barley sales by Aug. 1 through regulatory changes, but Ken Ritter said the board's governing legislation would require Parliament to examine and vote on such a change.

        "Our initial reaction to the announcement today is this isn't one of the legitimate ways you can change the law of the country," Mr. Ritter told reporters. "You cannot change the CWB's mandate through a change in regulation."

        Earlier yesterday, Mr. Strahl said he believes the government's plan could withstand legal challenges.

        "I think it's quite clear we can do it by regulation. The legislation takes that into account," Mr. Strahl told Reuters.

        "We also think that the plebiscite gives us some more moral cover, if you will," he said in an interview.

        Mr. Strahl released results from a non-binding farmer vote yesterday that showed 62% wanted the CWB's monopoly to end.

        Mr. Ritter said the Aug. 1 start for the open market would disrupt barley markets, and noted that the CWB has made barley sales beyond that date.

        "We didn't have a view that they would be approaching this in this giddy up go fashion and make a precipitous announcement like they have today," Mr. Ritter said.

        The CWB has said the agency may bow out of the barley business if the monopoly is ended because it does not own handling facilities and may not be able to compete with grain companies.


        Note from Parsley:

        What is interesting is that at present,as well as traditionally, the CWB, through a quiet Board motion,and with no change in regulations, and with no change in legislation, simply grants licenses to whomever the Boards wants to grant a license to.

        These Directors need to resign. They are hypocrites of the worst kind.

        Absolute hypocrites.

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        • Jay-mo
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 730

          #5
          Note to Strahl, fire Ritter.

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          • Fransisco
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 3859

            #6
            ...and Toews

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            • craig
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2000
              • 801

              #7
              It's interesting that one day the CWB is distancing themselves from government saying that because we are not a crown corporation certain rules shouldn't apply to us. Yet the next day they say only changes can be made through parliament. Another example of how we interpret the rules to serve one own self interest.Parallels how it seems the board is issuing new court challeges almost daily against the government while at the same time looking for special favors from this very same goverment on an on going basis.

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              • ridgie
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 19

                #8
                hear hear..........

                The CWB supporters, along with the NFU and Saskatchewans own Ag minister Mark Wartman have a real warped sence of the "RIGHT TO SELL ONE'S OWN PROPERTY."
                I keep hearing them talk about "DEMOCRATIC PROCESS."
                This is something the Liberal,NDP,CWB camp should go back to grade school to learn the true meaning of.

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                • wd9
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2000
                  • 3196

                  #9
                  Strahl fire Ritter, interesting question. AFAIK corporate law dictates that only the members and/or majority of the board thru a motion. Given the fact the CWB doesn't seem to follow any of the normal rules, I wonder if the minister can do this? Parsely, Chaff, Tom4CWB, how is your theory on CWB board governance?

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                  • rockpile
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 879

                    #10
                    Does this also support the restoration of rights and the ownership of all that is under my land, right to the core of the earth, which otherwise have been confiscated by Her Majesty? Of course, I am talking about full ownership of mineral rights. Or is this just weasel talk?
                    Rockpile

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