Canola Crisis, is it even worth growing?

[furrowtickler]

The second you price your canola youve made the wrong decision. In 30 seconds that price has gone up or down.. and youve either sold too little or not enough.

Cant wait for next yr though.. canola will be back, baby!

Tanking prices? Pfttt. 600$/ mT aint that bad.

Hows about 7.10 hard red? No bueno.

honestly at this point.. grain prices are fine. Its the jacked up prices of everything else that are the kicker...

Totally depends if you got decent enough rain for a crop
but you are very correct on the price of everything else …. But generic chem , it’s still very reasonable

[furrowtickler]

We are in a margin business, and right now there is no margin! when we make rash decisions, it usually costs us.
know your numbers, know your margin. If you are over hedged, put protection on. Commodities seem to be the best when the buyer is unsure of the outcome of the crop. If you don't know what you are going to get, they don't either. The crop usually comes back closer to average than we perceive it will. People do not talk about big crops, the news is always on the poor ones.
Fertilizer is the elephant in the room, but seed costs have grown at an alarming rate. Rents and cost of land are high, but landlords are even getting a shrinking piece of the pie as fertilizer companies beat us up. At the risk of sounding like a socialist, the corporates are beating us up pretty badly. The Bunge take over of Viterra should never have been allowed.

At this point thank goodness for generic herbicides , the only thing that one can make sense money wise

[Hamloc]

I had a phone call the other day from the area rep for Bayer. Before he talked to long I told him he was wasting his time as when I priced Dekalb canola last year it was close to $800 a bag. I said that simply doesn’t work. In my area year to year very little yield difference by variety. There was a time maybe 10-15 years ago I think as an example Invigor had an advantage. This year I grew 2 Pioneer, 1 Croplan and 1 Canterra variety. Certainly was a difference in thrash ability but very little difference in yield. $665 to $708 a bag. Still to expensive in my mind but much more affordable than Dekalb and Invigor in my area.

[foragefarmer]

You have a few more options in some areas of Manitoba?

Soybeans, oats , winter wheat, fall rye, corn, potatoes, sunflower, flax?
And though it's kind of overlooked, Forage seed can make you rich,
As above, what do you see as options for more acres?

Do you see beans as a total replacement for Canola?
When you seed beans what are your range for yield expectations in a normal year?

Corn can't have any appeal at todays prices?

Appreciate input from anyone from Manitoba.

Northern Sk has many acres in forage seed production, is that what "you" made it all from?

Is there alot of Reed Canary in your area?

I've seen poster's posting pictures of bailing that invasive species for hay, doubt they were smart enough to realized they were spreading the seed throughout the country side with their bales and equipment.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Forage, you're a riot.
Rather than be man enough to respond in the same thread where your accusations are being called out, you instead respond in a different thread in a different forum to a different poster about a different topic where you invent different totally unrelated and untrue accusations which have nothing to do with the thread in question or the thread where you originally spouted off and got in way over your head in the first place and are now trying to avoid responding.

As for your concerns about me baling reed Canary grass. I assure you it is most definitely a native species to Canada and to this area specifically.. Even a quick Google search could have saved you that embarrassment. The old timers have been putting up Reed Canary for hay since they first came here.

It is nearly unpalatable. But our local forage seed grower and retailer is selling an improved more palatable variety. I can pass on their name if you want to snitch on them to your forage seed stazi contact.

[furrowtickler]

Canola growing is a money pit. Not in a good way.

Depends on growing season , stupid comment
soybeans are a disaster here 9.9 years outa 10
each to their own

[foragefarmer]

Forage, you're a riot.
Rather than be man enough to respond in the same thread where your accusations are being called out, you instead respond in a different thread in a different forum to a different poster about a different topic where you invent different totally unrelated and untrue accusations which have nothing to do with the thread in question or the thread where you originally spouted off and got in way over your head in the first place and are now trying to avoid responding.

As for your concerns about me baling reed Canary grass. I assure you it is most definitely a native species to Canada and to this area specifically.. Even a quick Google search could have saved you that embarrassment. The old timers have been putting up Reed Canary for hay since they first came here.

It is nearly unpalatable. But our local forage seed grower and retailer is selling an improved more palatable variety. I can pass on their name if you want to snitch on them to your forage seed stazi contact.

Knew I'd seen the posted picture in the past, but couldn't remember who posted it. Drew you out like a fly to shit.

Ab5, is this your post you feel I ignored?

"Your highly scientific argument in support of killing the ostriches seems to be centered on the fact that they aren't native. You keep repeating this. Neither are the chickens we are trying to save.

Neither are any of the domesticated hay species you could be growing.
I'm sure you would support the CFIA sterilizing your hay land after declaring alfalfa a noxious invasive weed."

Ab5, I can't take any of your post's seriously, by you mentioning raising Ostriches in Canada in the same sentence as Forage seed production in Canada turly shows how little you really know about distinguishing the difference between a viable business (forage seed production 6 billion dollar industry within Canada) and an Ostrich ponzi scheme.

Don't worry about my Forage seed production, what I grow is not a noxious invasive weed, worry about that canola you brag about on Agriville storing year after year and betting the farm, it will hit $53.00/bu.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Drew you out like a fly to shit.
.

You sound like the villain in a children's cartoon.

How about we continue the mud slinging where you started it over in Chuck's daycare. Before we both get banished to purgatory along with chuck.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but all of the other posters in this forum except you manage to have civil discussions and disagreements.

[blackpowder]

Thing that struck me in the video was that whoever he is he admits to never calibrating his yield monitor.
Says a lot. I wonder how many farmers are like that?
Looking at his swaths I'd say he's losing maybe 10% minimum and he doesn't even know where or how.
Not the crops or the weather's fault.

Here, I maximize canola acres every year.