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  • westernvicki
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 867

    #11
    We are the most environmental farmers in the world.
    Its a market advantage in a competitive world.

    We have created an advantage in marketing. We are ESG producers.

    How can anyone find anything negative about claiming the territory?

    The Question: Do we have a voice in our Ag Associations is Valid.
    Indeed we should expect them to at the very least agree to champion our success in being the most efficient productive producers in the world.

    Only fools would ignore this opportunity.

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    • bucket
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 17027

      #12
      "Only fools would ignore this opportunity​"

      That is an understatement as to what we have representing us.

      Ag groups make presentations in front of the finance committee and somehow don't hear the whispers of a change to capital gains. Lots of selfies in Ottawa though with MPs.

      Just one example of the lack of competence on the farm groups, provincial and federal.

      Dave Carey boasts about being a top lobbyist yet the interest free gets reduced on advances?

      makes you wonder.

      BTW way where did the resolution go with the responsibility passed on to farm groups to enact export sales. Didn't matter to those on the board and got lost.

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      • blackpowder
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 9263

        #13
        Never sat on a board and not about to start. I believe the people who do so have the best of intentions.
        Change the mandate.
        Since the board's demise we seem to be floundering. 12 years and I hear the same blah blah and see no changes.
        We can't even agree on export sales reporting.
        Copies of the Seducer from the 50's have similar headlines as today.
        Or maybe it's like I told my elder neighbor. Younger farmers today don't need or want our experience. They just write the check. Solves everything.

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        • fcr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2021
          • 532

          #14
          One of the biggest problems I see is there are so many middlemen taking a piece of our profits. Eg. the endless amount of so called chem reps and agronomists driving around in new pickups with an unlimited credit card . I have farmed for 42 years and have yet to have to call someone to tell me when to seed or spray or harvest. The new generation knows nothing because they pay someone to do this for them. Or a satellite image to show me my crop is doing good or not. As black powder said just write another cheque.

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          • fjlip
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2002
            • 9810

            #15
            Yes Crop Pro, knows all, current farmer on the land apparently NOT! Farmers built ALL the monster terminals and swanky huge Stealerships....plus all workers involved, paid by farmers! Till we can't afford, then what? Collapse

            Unless grain prices rebound, doubt the $100-$150 rents will be happening.

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            • AlbertaFarmer5
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 12513

              #16
              Originally posted by westernvicki View Post
              We are the most environmental farmers in the world.
              Its a market advantage in a competitive world.

              We have created an advantage in marketing. We are ESG producers.

              How can anyone find anything negative about claiming the territory?

              The Question: Do we have a voice in our Ag Associations is Valid.
              Indeed we should expect them to at the very least agree to champion our success in being the most efficient productive producers in the world.

              Only fools would ignore this opportunity.
              If one were to make the naive assumption that the current definition of ESG is a fixed target, and the goal post will not be moved in time. Then perhaps playing along to get along might have some merit.
              But when all evidence indicates that the originators of these toxic ideologies have a goal nothing short of eliminating conventional agriculture and reliable energy, along with all of the inputs required for unreliable energy, I don't see how we win this game which will have ever evolving targets.

              At some point we simply have to admit that the King has no clothes. Do that as soon as possible rather than being complicit in the nonsense.
              Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 17, 2024, 11:43.

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              • jazz
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2018
                • 9308

                #17
                Customers for Canadas grains crops are all 3rd world countries. They dont give a fck about esg and wont pay more for it.

                It would be stupid to align ourselves with an ideology like that. And to front run it just in the hopes somebody eventually pats on our backs and rewards us is lunacy.

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                • bucket
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 17027

                  #18
                  A perfect example is Triffid flax. Our customers said they would not accept it . So the breeders decided to ignore these requests, who ended up paying?

                  I know the answer, but no one that created the mess was ever held accountable.

                  These programs have to have a monetary accountability to them. Otherwise farmer keep paying. In lost markets , or prices.

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                  • sumdumguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 11976

                    #19
                    I think if we stick our necks out, the woke jokes will make us a target. They already are so jealous of farmers. They think we are coddled by government.

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                    • bucket
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 17027

                      #20
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Customers for Canadas grains crops are all 3rd world countries. They dont give a fck about esg and wont pay more for it.

                      It would be stupid to align ourselves with an ideology like that. And to front run it just in the hopes somebody eventually pats on our backs and rewards us is lunacy.
                      Very good point. My son wants to make perfect bales. I tell him a cow will eat a battery if given a chance. Hungry people don't care about our good stewardship, they care about getting fed.

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