$1000 dollar bonuses for all CWB Staff

[cottonpicken]

So you think the people of sask. tax dollars should be put into your business but when it comes to cwb bonuses its your money?

[mbgrainfarmer]

I would only be favour of the Christmas/Stress bonuses if all the
persons on the CWB voter's list payed toward them equally. I mean one man one pay, not the weighted, 1500 tonne man pays and the 40 tonne man goes a long for the free ride. In the socialist hook stepping way, it is always easy to be in favour of spending your nieghbors money and not your own, so this Christmas it is time for the cheap brother/sister (and we all have one) that gets to put his/her name on the X-mas card to pay their fair share.
Merry Christmas and may we be free in the New Year.

[wilagro]

Might equals right. Those with the largest farms should have the most say in all CWB matters.

That is how most bullies operate.

'Nuff said.

[Ron]

if the cwb is a business then more bushels equals more votes, if it is a democracy then anybody who might ever grow, eat or drink barley or wheat should have a vote.
which is it?

[just_wondering]

Wilagro
some bullies operate in other ways
Its not those with the largest farms that should have the most say it's those who use the services of that company more.
I would compare it to the dividend cheques of your local credit union or Co-op rather than the one member one vote. With the CWB as with these organizations it's membership list can be manipulated.
Untill the CWB can act like a business it should not go around claiming that it is one and not an act of parliment.
the idea of Manitobagrain's that all should pay equally is one of the best that I've heard lately I think I might use it unquoted if you do'nt mind.
Idea
Every permit book holder will pay a $10,000.00 (or $5.00 whatever) membership fee, for the right to use CWB services. Have a one book one vote system and make it voluntary in the new year that would make it a great new years present.

[TOM4CWB]

Just-wondering,

I really question the "right" of a group of grain growers to confiscate the property of other people ... to depreciate the value of these folks property to make their own more valuble.

THis is pure gang violence... especially then there are many more poeple with a small economic stake... who can vote together to take advantage of people who have a large economic investment in the grain industry.

An exemption, sign out, some form of system to recognise both the "rights" and "responsibilities" that are attached as a duty to have a democratic right... must be respected by all involved in our grain marketing system.

In the Canadian regulation of "trade and commerce" the folks who decide not to use and totally avoid the "works for the general advantage of Canada" are supposed to have their decision respected and be left alone.

This is only fair and to be expected in a free and democratic society. It is how the Canada Grain Act works... the CWB Act used to be practically implemented in the manner...before 1993.

Goodales Revenge needs to be removed and our Provincial and Federal Civil and property rights respected.

How can anyone argue that the "order in council" Goodale impemented a few minutes after the Courts ruled against the Liberals view of the CWB in 1996 respected and properly recognised the "Canadian Bill of Rights" ?

[wade]

It seems to me that maybe the money should come out of the pockets of the "pro" wheat board voters accounts.

[cowman]

just wondering: I like your idea! I don't think anyone can argue that the CWB operates like the UFA or a co-op where you get a dividend(or rights) based on how much you do business? That would be okay if the smaller guy wasn't forced to only shop at UFA or the Co-op?
A funny thing happened on the way to Socialist Utopia? The darned peasants started voting with their seed drills! How much "malt" quality barley never hits the malt market because the grower doesn't want to go through the wheat board? How much wheat goes to the hog barns that would make flour?
The CWB really does need to go? It has stifled competition, it has delayed developement, it has turned farmers into criminals!

[chuckChuck]

The question of bonuses at the CWB is irrelevant, except for those who want to use every opportunity to bash the Wheat Board. More importantly I noticed that there was almost no response to charliep's post on Dec. 22 the U.of S. Barley Study......For those of you who haven't seen or looked at the results, the study came to the conclusion that the CWB monopoly was worth on average, an additional $59 million annualy in additional revenue from barley from 1995 - 2004. The study also examined other previous studies. What amazes me is there are many anti Wheat Board types out there who don't care or don't want to know the results of any studies that don't support their arguments. One such farmer was quoted in the Star Phoenix and the Leader Post and he said more or less - "I don't care what the study says, I still think I can do better". One has to wonder what kind a business person would make decisions without considering a full range of information and anlysis on any subject? Now I know alot of you are automatically going to slam the study and discredit it probably without even reading it. Go ahead if you want. But don't pretend that some how this makes up for the lack of an informed debate on the subject.

[TOM4CWB]

ChuckChuck;

To make the claim the CWB "single desk" monopoly is responsible for a premium of "X" is not possible when there is no base line of competition in the first place with which to compare the benchmark.

It is a calculated dream world... made upon presumptions that can't be proven because they are not history.

A very small tipping point on corn consumption caused this years corn market to go, on a year of record production... to prices not thought possible.

And there was no CWB "single desk" driving up the corn price this fall in the US.

THe everlasting "multi-national" threat... the evil futures speculator and funds, all these forces couldn't break corn prices down this fall.

To claim the CWB "single desk" has the "market power" you are claiming in the barley market simply not believable. Voluntary pools get growers premiums every year they operate in other grain products... to what many individuals can do by themselves.

This however doesn't prove for a mili-second that the CWB pool accounts were either well managed or gathered any premium over what a voluntary pooling system could have attained over the time frame claimed.

THe Western Grain Marketing Panel clearly saw through this mirage 10 years ago... and any human consumption barley grower this year feels the sting of a badly managed CWB "single desk" pool that is short $1.50/bu right now this crop year...

The CWB... the power of the "single desk" is more like a pair of heavy duty booster cables sucking the economic juice straight out of our bank accounts.

But then... exactly how much human consumption barley are you going to sell to the CWB "single desk" this crop year?

How disappointed were you last year when the CWB came up a good $.40-.70/bu short on feed barley from expected results?