When will the wheat high occur?

[malleefarmer]

Given ongoing dry in Aust when will will the wheat high occur for 07 wheat?
Oct/Nov 06 or just after Aust harvest has finished say Jan/Feb when its realized how little wheat there is in the world or will it take a few glitches in Canadian US planting in April/May? Not possible you guys will get dry season 2 year running is it?
How high the top $5.4 to $5.8 or is $6 wheat possible
cheers

[silverback]

I hope you are not asking Western Canadians when the highest wheat prices will be?

When we are forced to take the best that the CWB will give us, we don't have a real good hope of hitting the world's highest prices.

Pooling is such a great thing.

It feels real good watching cash prices spike south of the border and our pooled prices either drop or stay the same.

I love this country.

(However, I am still thankful I do live here and not in some of the other places in this world. Happy Thanksgiving)

[malleefarmer]

Im still ignorant after reading all agriville posts for 9 months dont you have any cash markets ie direct to dairy farmers or flour mills?

ps i spent 12 weeks at lydminister in my youth and travelled bc/alberta/sak a fair bit and been back once since i loved every minute of it guys were laid back easy going did enjoy the banter of the coffee shop in the mornings

[NeilS]

Mallee

Barley can be sold to any domestic buyer, open market. Barley export is strictly through the Wheat board.

All non feed wheat in western Canada must be sold through the wheat board, even that used by domestic mills. Feed wheat can be sold either on the open domestic market or to the Wheat board, and they mainly export it. Since feed wheat prices are lower than milling wheat, the milling wheat here is captive by the Board.

[wedino]

Neil, A slight correction, Should read feed barley can be sold to any domestic buyer. All malt, including domestic, is controlled by cwb.

[AdamSmith]

Mallee, we have a free market in Canola, Flax, Oats, Sunflowers, Buckwheat, Rye, everything except those grains in which the CWB has exclusive jurisdiction. Now here is where it gets confusing, the CWB controls All wheat and barley for export or human consumption, as if there is a difference, but in this country we have the most bizarre and over the top regulations with respect to variety registration and with grading all in order to fit within the contortions of "wheat and barley for export and human consumption". Everywhere else in the world, the real world that is wheat is wheat and barley is barley. If it doesn't meet certain intrinsic qualities it then becomes feed, not in Canada feed is considered anything that a farmer wants to sell domestically outside the CWB. Probably 99% of all wheat varieties developed are chucked out and not registered because they just don’t seem to fit with the weirdness we have developed here in Canada. Those other crops are as free as Willy but wheat and barley are prisoners of Colonel Klink.

Are you confused yet?

Personally, I've been in a state of perpetual confusion about this for nearly twenty years now.

[TOM4CWB]

Wedino,

AND... this is all about to change as our Conservative Government implements their election promise to return marketing choice to "designated area" grain growers?

How soon?

My bet is; sooner rather than later... see some big moves by Jan 1 2007... without a vote.

Grain Growers in the "designated area"(B.C. Peace, Alta.,Sask., & Man.) should have the right to "vote" with their grain trucks... just like any other grain grower in Canada does now.

Goodale has been silent in Parliament... because he is responsible for this whole mess... before 1993 the "single desk" as we have come to know it did not exist.

THe "designated area" "single desk" was implemented by Goodale with out legislative amendments to the CWB Act... it was simply his verbal order.

In the same way the "single desk" can be removed by the Conservative Gov.

Legally I don't see how the CWB can stop this.

It will certainly be interesting to see how it all unfolds!

{Part IV export licensing by the CWB applies equally to all of Canada.

And "single desk" Profits were supposed to go to the Receiver General of CA; NOT the pool accounts.}

This WILL effect our Wheat & Barley marketing... and could effect prices.

The CWB knows this... and is trying to bluff as much grain into their pools as possible... before change occurs.

[wedino]

Tom4, I hope you are right re: marketing choice to "designated area" grain growers. The pro monopoly boys are making a loud noise re: vote, I agree with ya, nobody can vote on our freedom. The monopoly was introduced without a vote & it should end the same. The only vote I remember was a vote to introduce **** to the monopoly during the 1970's, it was defeated.

[stubblejumper]

What about the vote on barley

[wedino]

Stubblejumper, remind me.