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  • tubs
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 489

    Brazil farmland

    Listened to the farm market report from standard grin yesterday and he was saying that Brazil is going to develop an additional 99 million acres of farmland in the next ten years. That does not bode well for grain prices.
  • Robertbarlage
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 1242

    #2
    I wouldn't worry to much about that.... Be more worried if the loonie left is still in charge here in 10 years!!!!

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    • Taiga
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 1481

      #3
      It’s a lot of work and cost making farmland here, I wonder how it compares with down there with much bigger bush and trees and stumps

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      • Taiga
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 1481

        #4
        Loony left is going to get shelved here soon, turns out mere survival is more important than constant virtue signalling. Left won’t get revived until people get too comfortable again.

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12564

          #5
          Originally posted by Taiga View Post
          It’s a lot of work and cost making farmland here, I wonder how it compares with down there with much bigger bush and trees and stumps
          And much greater need for fertilizer to make it produce in the first place.

          And complete lack of infrastructure to get the grain to port.

          And no winter and frost to break disease/pest cycles and compaction.

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          • AlbertaFarmer5
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 12564

            #6
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            And much greater need for fertilizer to make it produce in the first place.

            And complete lack of infrastructure to get the grain to port.

            And no winter and frost to break disease/pest cycles and compaction.
            Add to that all of the political obstacles. Corruption, squatters, security costs, currency fluctuations, tax burden when ag is the only tax base, the threat of nationalization. No domestic supply of most of the required inputs, high interest rates, no safety nets.

            I maintain that our COP can and should be lower than South America. We just choose to bid up land costs instead.

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3256

              #7
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              Add to that all of the political obstacles. Corruption, squatters, security costs, currency fluctuations, tax burden when ag is the only tax base, the threat of nationalization. No domestic supply of most of the required inputs, high interest rates, no safety nets.

              I maintain that our COP can and should be lower than South America. We just choose to bid up land costs instead.
              Are you talking about canuckistan or brazil? Oh forgot to add: weather that wants to kill you in the case of canuckistan.

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              • shtferbrains
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 5265

                #8
                Don't they get 2 crops a year?

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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4517

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  Add to that all of the political obstacles. Corruption, squatters, security costs, currency fluctuations, tax burden when ag is the only tax base, the threat of nationalization. No domestic supply of most of the required inputs, high interest rates, no safety nets.

                  I maintain that our COP can and should be lower than South America. We just choose to bid up land costs instead.
                  Exactly! Same as worrying about Russia eating our lunch. I don’t want to get complacent neither but a lot of these expanded acres aren’t exactly prime. Brazil requires a shit ton of potash to grow anything on decent ground let alone anything about to be broke. Cows are getting pushed into the forests as pampas are getting broke for beans and corn. Any expansion in Russia or better description Siberia should really be cow grazing land. It isn’t exactly great farmland with low nutrients let alone short seasons. All factors are at play here.

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                  • bobofthenorth
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 517

                    #10
                    I think Brazil has a huge problem with productive land being gobbled up by cane which goes into ethanol production.

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