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  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17027

    Combines

    Who wishes they would go back to a simpler time. Like 1997 when a combine didn't have to have so many electronics of which any thing could shut them down.

    I realize most are just combines jockeys and don't understand how to set a combine but Jesus phucking Christ can't they build something simpler with less technology for a shitload less money.

    Throw away the emissions crap too. Every dealer's solution is to delete the phucking things, why put them in the first place.


    Don't really need the complications on the last step of my work.
  • goalieguy847
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 665

    #2
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    Who wishes they would go back to a simpler time. Like 1997 when a combine didn't have to have so many electronics of which any thing could shut them down.

    I realize most are just combines jockeys and don't understand how to set a combine but Jesus phucking Christ can't they build something simpler with less technology for a shitload less money.

    Throw away the emissions crap too. Every dealer's solution is to delete the phucking things, why put them in the first place.


    Don't really need the complications on the last step of my work.
    Uhhhhh last time i checked you can still buy alot of those 1997 combines for pretty darn cheap? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the new stuff...

    Father in law used to do 3400 acres a year with 3 cts combines...

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    • Herc
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 772

      #3
      But does a 1997 CTS seat tickle ur balls like a X9 does?

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      • ajl
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 3245

        #4
        Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
        Uhhhhh last time i checked you can still buy alot of those 1997 combines for pretty darn cheap? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the new stuff...

        Father in law used to do 3400 acres a year with 3 cts combines...
        Wonder how much less a 97 CTS equipped with hopper topper and a 30' d****r header does in a day compared to an X9. Around here they do the same ac/hr when roading and a 30' header goes down the road without a header trailer in most places while a 45 does not. Ask my neighbor about that one. The only CTS I have run had a 22 ft auger table but got along well with that combine. Do not remember any breakdowns. Buddy runs 9600 equipped with 30' d****rs and I run one of them now and then. I run an MF 8570 and I am not worried about emission systems. Not much to go wrong on it but I am shopping for an upgrade mainly because this machine looks very dated. Will stick with Massey if possible. Bottom line is stick with older machinery until the industry gets the message to simplify.

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        • Happytrails
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 832

          #5
          The emissions thing is government over regulation more than the manufacturers fault. Only applies to Canada and the US. I believe that the goal isn't cleaner air but rather the destruction of modern civilization. There are a few exemptions to emission regulations besides rest of the world. A couple are train locomotives, aircraft, and the US military. Apparently more important enterprises than growing food.

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          • Old Cowzilla
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 1566

            #6
            First JD combine I drove was pretty hi tec one button for kill switch on header another switch for lights ( 2facing down on header and 1 pointing into hopper ) . BUT you only had to reach around and grab handfull of grain while driving to see sample. Those 55's where a beast and open station where chilly in October !

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            • mcfarms
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2004
              • 1685

              #7
              The massage seat got tried briefly , I've requested the next ones have no massage seat but a microwave to make my popcorn . The reply was that the new 4wd 's have inverters and 110 power so the combines may soon.
              As far as the 45ft header thing we can take one in or out of the factory transport in about 5 minutes like this design , not sure I trust them on steep hills not to pull out and try and pass you though.
              SF3 you better have lots of truck power , you should be doing a super B every 20 minutes in Barley based on what we've seen so far. Between 2200-2400 Bushels a hour per machine in irrigated barley over the weekend.

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              • bucket
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 17027

                #8
                Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
                Uhhhhh last time i checked you can still buy alot of those 1997 combines for pretty darn cheap? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the new stuff...

                Father in law used to do 3400 acres a year with 3 cts combines...
                So only guys that like technology for 3 year leases should be able to buy a new combine?

                So you like emissions stuff? all the wiring that sends codes for broken wires? needing a dealer to reset your combine when derates at 3pm and they can't service it until it rains tomorrow ?

                Gotcha. But the question is why can't the manufacturers build a low end combine that experienced guys can operate.. Set it and forget it.

                Everything they add to make automatic adjustments adds another level of complexity and maintenance and parts the dealer will more than likely won't have.

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21883

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mcfarms View Post
                  The massage seat got tried briefly , I've requested the next ones have no massage seat but a microwave to make my popcorn . The reply was that the new 4wd 's have inverters and 110 power so the combines may soon.
                  As far as the 45ft header thing we can take one in or out of the factory transport in about 5 minutes like this design , not sure I trust them on steep hills not to pull out and try and pass you though.
                  SF3 you better have lots of truck power , you should be doing a super B every 20 minutes in Barley based on what we've seen so far. Between 2200-2400 Bushels a hour per machine in irrigated barley over the weekend.
                  We run 45’s FD 75’s , slow and steady but cover a lot of acres per day . They follow the ground better than the 35’s we had . Really like the new FD 2’s but they are so overpriced it’s crazy , and would not add to capacity. We can keep combines full with these old headers for now .
                  Used to run 35’s on Gleaners , that was a good match. Too bad they struggled in the front ends in canola , they are great machine otherwise.

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                  • bucket
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 17027

                    #10
                    Make the cabs taller and put the screens in the headliner. Better side view.

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