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    #11
    In this case I would be the landlord. sale would be the only possible but I would honor the lease agreement .
    We must be in a higher rainfall area as we generaly get 3 good crops after sod ,most of my land has been in grass for the last 50yr that I owned itand no fert.
    Seen some direct seeding into sprayed out sod with very good yields ,one consederation is field size , some only 30 acre some 120 ,right now pasturing cows and haying but some realy isnt producing much hay so looking for something besides selling as now not ready for town life yet .But tired of fixing and long hrs so let someone else do it

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      #12
      Some how it canablized most of my post but the idea is still there.

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        #13
        As renters we did something similar a few years ago. The quarter was what my father always called "go back". It had never been seeded down but eventually grasses came back and took over the weeds and guys started cutting hay on it. Its not real good land but its close to home. When it went out for tender, we bid less than half of local rent for 2 years and then moving up to the local norm as the land started producing normally. We have been happy with it and the owner as well. Thing is that its a heck of a lot more valuable now that it is producing normally. I'm old school and I like working it black to start with and zero till after. I have never been a fan of direct seeding into sod. There seems to be lots of badger holes and old ruts from wet years that need to be fixed.

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          #14
          Been grass for 50 years, that would be interesting. Most pasture land around here that has been broken probably should of stayed in grass. Unless it was alfalfa it will need a ton of nitrogen to break down the sod.

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            #15
            And someday if lucky, we'll all get to wear the other shoe. I suspect some will sing a different tune. What kind of landlord will we be?

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              #16
              A landlady once told me she takes tje first 10 bushels produced per acre.

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                #17
                Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                A landlady once told me she takes tje first 10 bushels produced per acre.

                There would be a few guys owing her bushels this year

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                  #18
                  20/80 max unless two things
                  You have hopper bin storage , aeration and power ,any percentage higher hopefully the landlord is paying that percentage of inputs.
                  1/3 - 2/3 now is a guaranteed failure for the tenant unless it’s 1/3 summerfallow , or the landlord paying 1/3 inputs
                  In most cases now with expenses, anything more than 20% the tenant will be losing money 80% of the time.
                  Good luck with your situation, at 1/3 -2/3 your tenant will be losing money most of the time nowadays.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                    20/80 max unless two things
                    You have hopper bin storage , aeration and power ,any percentage higher hopefully the landlord is paying that percentage of inputs.
                    1/3 - 2/3 now is a guaranteed failure for the tenant unless it’s 1/3 summerfallow , or the landlord paying 1/3 inputs
                    In most cases now with expenses, anything more than 20% the tenant will be losing money 80% of the time.
                    Good luck with your situation, at 1/3 -2/3 your tenant will be losing money most of the time nowadays.
                    holy shit , is there still guys that can give 33 per cent of crop away ?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      holy shit , is there still guys that can give 33 per cent of crop away ?
                      More than 21-22% of gross is over the top from studies I've done and seen.

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