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    #21
    Drills have a lot of factors at play.
    From basic design to openers to terrain, field conditions, soil, trash and speed.
    Not to mention how worn all components are. For me, here, I should have bought my P2060 the day before I bought my last 5710. Night and day.
    I would not argue with anyone who is successful regardless of color.
    Perhaps the newest BG, or just being new, mitigates somewhat the issues I've experienced, but I'm in the 8 year old bracket.
    No engineer can convince me the single auger better than individual rollers.
    BG is still a market share leader, although less so now.
    But then so was JD with their 40-50-60 series after the Magnums/Stiegers came out. Another no brainer from a practical standpoint.
    Last edited by blackpowder; Dec 18, 2022, 15:16.

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      #22
      Best crops I ever grew were seeded with a cih 7200 hoe press. With narrow atom jets the openers just ran on the firm moist soil and was pretty much independent openers. 7 inch spacing, fast inter row canopy closure, clean. Nh3, harrow, seed. Awesome.

      But the boxes got small. Other than that, I’d go back in a heartbeat.

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        #23
        you just need to get one of those early caseiH air drills , they were a 7200 hoe drill on a cult frame with a tank behind
        hoe drills never missed here
        we wore out our JD 9450 , neighbour bought it and still using it
        Last edited by Guest; Dec 18, 2022, 16:37.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
          Best crops I ever grew were seeded with a cih 7200 hoe press. With narrow atom jets the openers just ran on the firm moist soil and was pretty much independent openers. 7 inch spacing, fast inter row canopy closure, clean. Nh3, harrow, seed. Awesome.

          But the boxes got small. Other than that, I’d go back in a heartbeat.
          And sectional control, decades ahead. Even horse drawn drills had sectional control, you could trip one side at a time.

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            #25
            I have had a Morris maxum, a 5710 and now a paralink.

            I agree that the air distribution system on a bourgault could use an update. The Morris distribution system was very gentle.

            However, I rarely plug a run now. The Morris we constantly had to be on the lookout for a plug.

            We can seed 3 to 3,500 acres of canola a year and end up with a half a small bag of canola seed leftover. Couldn't do that with the Morris without climbing in the tank 4 times to sweep it down.

            We calibrate about three times after a seed change and check it every couple days after that. Usually right on.

            I have never grown crops as nice and even as I have since I got a paralink. It could be our conditions in our local area here. 90-95% are bg paralink here with the next most popular being vaderstad and then flexicoil, John Deere or Morris.
            Last edited by LEP; Dec 18, 2022, 17:26.

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              #26
              Sounds like the 5710 can finish it's life on this dirt. NO moving parts. 1" opener with 3.5" steel packers and scr apers...no depth issues.
              BG tank is so simple, guess I can compromise on accuracy... still can end up with less than a bag of canola...

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              Neighbors Paralink not even as good 20 times the price...lots is operator, in a hurry, hired operators...
              Last edited by fjlip; Dec 18, 2022, 17:32.

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                #27
                Apparently SCR APERS are not allowed....ra pe word

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                  #28
                  i agree , I'm liking simple more with every passing year !
                  and hoping the ole morris maxim 2 can finish me off
                  a fella here has an old eeze on air seeder with plastic add on packers, 7 series morris tank , never misses
                  still say the best seeding tool ever made for the NE swamp would be the BG 8810 or 8910
                  Last edited by Guest; Dec 18, 2022, 20:07.

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                    #29
                    Looking at Bourgault’s agronomy trials, they use 140 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat. And we wonder why the government wants to lower our nitrogen usage by 30%. I only use 80 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat, I guess I must be a cheapskate.

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                      #30
                      26 us gallons of 28-0-0 i side band on my wheat. thats 78 lbs actual N , and often grow 60 bu wheat when things go right

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