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    #46
    Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
    Isn’t a .5 increase letting off the gas from .75
    Central banks are hiking at the fastest pace in history after many years of extremely loose monetary policy, and near zero percent rates. They created the everything bubble and are now popping it. The middle class is toast and will demand a solution from those that intentionally created the problem. The IMF will come to the 'rescue' and eliminate all debt and offer ubi in exchange for giving up property rights. Welcome to the great reset and the nwo. Rumour is April of 23.

    Last edited by biglentil; Dec 7, 2022, 16:29.

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      #47
      Lots of farms feeding livestock when there wasn't enough packing plants to process them. Don't recall any cheap feed out there during this covid thing. Don't recall ANY farmers getting time off during covid still had to feed the world go to work sick or not keep machinery running open shops or not parts supply or not deliver grain to market or not access to office just slip grain ticket under door. Oh and not allowed to use restrooms or restaurants while hauling grain. Driving all over hells halve acre to get parts fun times .

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        #48
        Originally posted by biglentil View Post
        Central banks are hiking at the fastest pace in history after many years of extremely loose monetary policy, and near zero percent rates. They created the everything bubble and are now popping it. The middle class is toast and will demand a solution from those that intentionally created the problem. The IMF will come to the 'rescue' and eliminate all debt and offer ubi in exchange for giving up property rights. Welcome to the great reset and the nwo. Rumour is April of 23.

        Considering that rates should not of gone so low in the first place and the fact that they dragged their feet far too long before raising rates this is the results. Still think rates have a bit to go yet, but maybe at a slower pace.
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        Nice to be able to put money into a GIC and get close to 4% instead of the .5% a year ago and gives investors a choice instead of the stock markets and crypto currencies.
        Last edited by Sodbuster; Dec 7, 2022, 19:03.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Sodbuster View Post
          Considering that rates should not of gone so low in the first place and the fact that they dragged their feet far too long before raising rates this is the results. Still think rates have a bit to go yet, but maybe at a slower pace.
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          Nice to be able to put money into a GIC and get close to 4% instead of the .5% a year ago and gives investors a choice instead of the stock markets and crypto currencies.
          Best GIC rates are 5% for 1 yr in Canada. Current official CPI is 6.9%. For a loss of 1.9% on the purchasing power of your dollars in 1 years time, but its worst than that since the interst you received is taxable income.

          Only in a funny money financial system would savers be punished in such a manner.

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            #50
            Originally posted by biglentil View Post
            Best GIC rates are 5% for 1 yr in Canada. Current official CPI is 6.9%. For a loss of 1.9% on the purchasing power of your dollars in 1 years time, but its worst than that since the interst you received is taxable income.

            Only in a funny money financial system would savers be punished in such a manner.
            Most definitely true but sure beats the stock market being down close to 25% this year unless you invested in energy or metals.

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              #51
              Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
              From what I remember,

              Borrow $60k and if you repay it within 2 years you only have to pay back $40k.

              The remaining $20k is forgiven but is taxable.

              Didn't take it because I don't need an audit and the less I'm involved with anything to do the government or the CRA the better, I sleep. Dropped out of AgriStability and Agrivest in 2012.

              Those that participated in any of the Covid free government money no matter which program and committed fraud to get it, the CRA should go after them with both barrels. Those the qualified leave them alone.

              No forgiveness as the debt is unreal.
              actually , there were only 3 questions on the original $40 k loan, done through your bank , on line. there most definitely was no question asked about hardship or anything of the like ? i forget the questions , but it was basically nothing . those that took it said 3 days it was in your account . now maybe you are referring to the $20k add on because accountants everywhere said to steer clear of it because on that one govt was demanding you sign for hardship and basically you were facing financial hardship
              many large farms took wage and rent subsidies here, and that has helped raise cash rent

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                #52
                We can rightfully criticize the government for the haphazard method of distributing the funds, and lack of oversight. But that overlooks the purpose of the program. This literally was the helicopter money which Bernanke used to talk about. The point was to get money into the hands of consumers and businesses as fast as possible to stop the downward spiral of the economy. And it worked, and we are reaping the outcome now with inflation and a lazy(er) entitled(er) workforce.

                We can argue if letting the economic cycle take its natural course would have been better in the long run. We can argue that many of these businesses weren't viable to start with and this was just throwing good money after bad into a black hole. That just like every other government intervention, this caused massive unnatural distortions in supply and demand creating huge shortages and even more inflation. But, perhaps the alternative was having the entire economy grind to a halt, and how do you restart all the vital businesses when they are bankrupt, and staff is laid off, and the supply chains are completely severed?

                The short and medium term outcomes could have been much worse. The long term is debatable.

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