I assumed we had escaped the invigor problems this year. It all came out of the ground and never slowed down, cabbaged looked good until bolting. Then, instead of making flowers and pods, the previously wetish areas turned into deformed purple bushy plants with no pods, and aborted/white flowers.
We had almost a foot ( or more in places) of rain starting early June ending early July. Causing isolated drownouts and many more places that suffered from saturated soil, as is to be expected. These are extreme conditions even for here where being too wet is just normal. As of early July, I had low expectations.
In years past, the Invigor has been by far the best able to survive such conditions and eventually come back and make a good crop. That is what originally sold me on growing mostly Invigor vs RR. This year, the only RR variety we had made a miraculous turn around, under some much worse conditions. Places that looked like nothing had survived as of mid July, never got larger than a 2" tall purple plant sitting underwater, turned out decent with all the heat we got the rest of the year.
Invigor did the opposite. Once it finally warmed up and quit raining, the Invigors gave up. Plants were bolting even through the wet areas and looking very promising. But the flowers/pods aborted. The plants turned purple. They grew really bushy, loads of thin branches, mostly with no pods. Lots of biomass, but almost no viable seeds. They kept flowering very late, but still made no pods. Many areas eventually came back were and outgrew the purple deformed plants and were lush, green and full of flowers in early October while combining ripe crop right beside. But still no pods.
And these aren't places that had standing water, but lower on the side slopes or flatter areas.
The remainder of the crops on higher ground in between these patches, that was never stressed, yielded really well and looked normal.
There were also some isolated patches of high dry land, where later on, the plants turned purple, really tall, really bushy and deformed with no pods. In one case it happened all along the roads. Not sure if this is the same issue or unrelated
L343. L345, and L234. With L345 side by side with both other varieties in 3 much different locations.
Seemed to be most prominent in the L345, least in the L234. Also had one strip of pioneer LL, side by side, and there was a literal line where the purple plants started where I changed back to the Invigor.
Has anyone else seen this, this year or other years? Or had any other variety do this? This was the first time I grew the L345 or L343. Was very happy with the L340 last year with no rain, but of course it was cancelled and exchanged with L343 after I pre ordered it last fall.
BASF insists it is unrelated to the seed/seed treatment issues. I would rather they told me it was the seed/treatment, even if they won't compensate, so I could be condident that this was a one off, and be confident in using invigor again next year. Because if this is environmental ( hormones due to the stress as I am told), and if it is unique to Invigor, then I'm not sure I can afford to have this happen again.
We had almost a foot ( or more in places) of rain starting early June ending early July. Causing isolated drownouts and many more places that suffered from saturated soil, as is to be expected. These are extreme conditions even for here where being too wet is just normal. As of early July, I had low expectations.
In years past, the Invigor has been by far the best able to survive such conditions and eventually come back and make a good crop. That is what originally sold me on growing mostly Invigor vs RR. This year, the only RR variety we had made a miraculous turn around, under some much worse conditions. Places that looked like nothing had survived as of mid July, never got larger than a 2" tall purple plant sitting underwater, turned out decent with all the heat we got the rest of the year.
Invigor did the opposite. Once it finally warmed up and quit raining, the Invigors gave up. Plants were bolting even through the wet areas and looking very promising. But the flowers/pods aborted. The plants turned purple. They grew really bushy, loads of thin branches, mostly with no pods. Lots of biomass, but almost no viable seeds. They kept flowering very late, but still made no pods. Many areas eventually came back were and outgrew the purple deformed plants and were lush, green and full of flowers in early October while combining ripe crop right beside. But still no pods.
And these aren't places that had standing water, but lower on the side slopes or flatter areas.
The remainder of the crops on higher ground in between these patches, that was never stressed, yielded really well and looked normal.
There were also some isolated patches of high dry land, where later on, the plants turned purple, really tall, really bushy and deformed with no pods. In one case it happened all along the roads. Not sure if this is the same issue or unrelated
L343. L345, and L234. With L345 side by side with both other varieties in 3 much different locations.
Seemed to be most prominent in the L345, least in the L234. Also had one strip of pioneer LL, side by side, and there was a literal line where the purple plants started where I changed back to the Invigor.
Has anyone else seen this, this year or other years? Or had any other variety do this? This was the first time I grew the L345 or L343. Was very happy with the L340 last year with no rain, but of course it was cancelled and exchanged with L343 after I pre ordered it last fall.
BASF insists it is unrelated to the seed/seed treatment issues. I would rather they told me it was the seed/treatment, even if they won't compensate, so I could be condident that this was a one off, and be confident in using invigor again next year. Because if this is environmental ( hormones due to the stress as I am told), and if it is unique to Invigor, then I'm not sure I can afford to have this happen again.
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