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    #11
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Welcome back, haven't seen you for a while.
    So what is the protocol when you do encounter it? Is there some type of registry where anyone was stolen grain containing grain fatty can register their grain and elevators are notified of it? Or you just make sure it matches the producer who is delivering? It definitely sounds like a good idea, but I've never quite understood what the practical application of it is.
    We’ve never checked it. I actually can’t even remember what it looks like specifically other than little pieces of paper. Was only a couple of farms around Airdrie that used it and we knew they did so never checked when it appeared in the sample. Possibly it had some part of their name on it.

    Nobody over here seems to use it so it’s been several years since I’ve seen it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
      We’ve never checked it. I actually can’t even remember what it looks like specifically other than little pieces of paper. Was only a couple of farms around Airdrie that used it and we knew they did so never checked when it appeared in the sample. Possibly it had some part of their name on it.

      Nobody over here seems to use it so it’s been several years since I’ve seen it.
      Is there enough of it in a load to show up in the probed sample every time, or only if you check as it is unloading?

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        #13
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Is there enough of it in a load to show up in the probed sample every time, or only if you check as it is unloading?
        Whenever I’ve seen it it’s in the probe sample. There’s usually enough of it to easily catch your eye. Assuming there’s a recommended amount per tonne.

        It’s quite tiny so would probably be easy to miss if you just grabbed a handful to look. Doubt you’d be able to see it in the auger hopper from standing. Grading you see it because you’re looking close and it shows up in dockage. If a grader missed it I would be worried 😂😂 Even if they don’t know what it is.

        Can also depend on the grain too. Cleaner canola it’s easy to see. Barley it can almost be invisible.
        Last edited by Blaithin; Oct 15, 2022, 09:18.

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          #14
          The Spypoint trail cams are a pretty easy way to have some surveillance. They have some nice maintenance free, solar charged models. Sends photos within seconds to your phone. You can pay for subscriptions that give you more features. Or just the basic free plan, is decent too.

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            #15
            Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
            Grainfetti is made in MB

            A on-farm business that is a great idea. Even sell decals to paste on the bins to deter thieves. 50,000 Bushels can be done with one box for $184. Cheap insurance.
            Does Dockage go up .3% on 50,000bu?

            Is the paper it’s on okay for selling into feed milling processing markets etc?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
              Whenever I’ve seen it it’s in the probe sample. There’s usually enough of it to easily catch your eye. Assuming there’s a recommended amount per tonne.

              It’s quite tiny so would probably be easy to miss if you just grabbed a handful to look. Doubt you’d be able to see it in the auger hopper from standing. Grading you see it because you’re looking close and it shows up in dockage. If a grader missed it I would be worried 😂😂 Even if they don’t know what it is.

              Can also depend on the grain too. Cleaner canola it’s easy to see. Barley it can almost be invisible.
              Good points! Often graders don't even look at the dockage they weight the clean (or some of) and don't even look at the DKG. That is the wrong way to do it however.

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                #17
                Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                I remember a bit about getting samples with it in. One issue was with custom truckers the confetti could/would stick to wet or static stick to inside boxes and tarps. Then it would be comingle with next load. Ya not much but if even one piece raised concern to be used properly. Also grain vac could blow it out if used when loading.
                If you are going to steal canola, getting rid of the confetti wouldn’t be all that hard. Could buy a cheap aspirator for 500 bucks, and run it through. I think the load value would cover that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                  I remember a bit about getting samples with it in. One issue was with custom truckers the confetti could/would stick to wet or static stick to inside boxes and tarps. Then it would be comingle with next load. Ya not much but if even one piece raised concern to be used properly.
                  Under that scenario, if by chance one piece did stick up in the truck and then someone else’s grain went in it, the original producer would know that custom trucker and furthermore that truck in particular hauled grain for him likely just a couple days previous. In your example you even say it’s the next load.

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