Just Weather

[furrowtickler]

AF5. Good research on Pakistan floods. You are right that the country has always had disastrous floods. However your analysis ignores any flood mitigation that Pakistan has done in the last 75 years. If they have done nothing you may be right that floods are not as bad. If however they have built control structures, dredged rivers, and built up embankments and floods are just as bad then your conclusion is faulty. So sis you look at flood mitigation done or just jump to your conclusion because it fit your bias?

What was the population in those corresponding years ?

Always gets more “catastrophic” as population increases .
Just like the dollar value they try to hype up in hurricane hit areas …. Well duh , everything is 10x in value from 25-30 years ago , as well as population density

[furrowtickler]

Reminded me of this. No wonder trust in legacy media has cratered.

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Proves how much of a farce this whole b/s is…. But but … the data shows lol

And sad to see how much of the population actually believes what msm is spouting .., like it’s gospel

[dmlfarmer]

What was the population in those corresponding years ?

Always gets more “catastrophic” as population increases .
Just like the dollar value they try to hype up in hurricane hit areas …. Well duh , everything is 10x in value from 25-30 years ago , as well as population density

Your right. Another factor to consider before you can make the bold statement that floods are not as bad as they once were. However, economic losses are not the only measure of flood that AF5 shared. Comparing the acres flooded is another measure that has nothing to due with increase in population and this year's flood as put a significant portion of the country underwater, more so that in many previous floods. and inspite of mitigation factors including the construction of over 6000 kms of built up embankments.

It is easy to live in the past and use the excuse that it has happened before therefore nothing to see here. However, that is the easy way out. Instead we have to look to the future and weigh the risks of possibilites. Hail storms have always happened so do farmers in hail alleys ignore the risk, or try to protect their investments with hail insurance.

Is the dropping of Lake mead, aral sea, Ogallala aqrifer simply due to to much irrigation use or is it a combination of high use and decreasing recharge? There are 2 sides to every ledger and too many people only look at one.

[dmlfarmer]

Headlines are intended to draw readers not inform. Articles have to be read to get actual facts and information but in this clickbait era too many people never get past the headline and that is obvious by Biglentils post.

[Guest]

Your right. Another factor to consider before you can make the bold statement that floods are not as bad as they once were. However, economic losses are not the only measure of flood that AF5 shared. Comparing the acres flooded is another measure that has nothing to due with increase in population and this year's flood as put a significant portion of the country underwater, more so that in many previous floods. and inspite of mitigation factors including the construction of over 6000 kms of built up embankments.

It is easy to live in the past and use the excuse that it has happened before therefore nothing to see here. However, that is the easy way out. Instead we have to look to the future and weigh the risks of possibilites. Hail storms have always happened so do farmers in hail alleys ignore the risk, or try to protect their investments with hail insurance.

Is the dropping of Lake mead, aral sea, Ogallala aqrifer simply due to to much irrigation use or is it a combination of high use and decreasing recharge? There are 2 sides to every ledger and too many people only look at one.

Or is simply just too many people in those areas?????

[Old Cowzilla]

29-30 c heatwave forecast for Manitoba this week or what we used to call a nice summer day . When not raking hay or square baling hay on open air tractors or stacking bales in barn lofts we would consider it warm enough to go swimming. Now go to air conditioned tractor via air conditioned truck to make round bales moved with air conditioned tractor . Don't know how this old fart is going to survive the day !!!!

[furrowtickler]

Your right. Another factor to consider before you can make the bold statement that floods are not as bad as they once were. However, economic losses are not the only measure of flood that AF5 shared. Comparing the acres flooded is another measure that has nothing to due with increase in population and this year's flood as put a significant portion of the country underwater, more so that in many previous floods. and inspite of mitigation factors including the construction of over 6000 kms of built up embankments.

It is easy to live in the past and use the excuse that it has happened before therefore nothing to see here. However, that is the easy way out. Instead we have to look to the future and weigh the risks of possibilites. Hail storms have always happened so do farmers in hail alleys ignore the risk, or try to protect their investments with hail insurance.

Is the dropping of Lake mead, aral sea, Ogallala aqrifer simply due to to much irrigation use or is it a combination of high use and decreasing recharge? There are 2 sides to every ledger and too many people only look at one.

Your right , there is only one side now , absolutely everything is blamed on climate change. The other side of the ledger is that it’s just weather , always has been and yes the climate is forever changing .

[biglentil]

Headlines are intended to draw readers not inform. Articles have to be read to get actual facts and information but in this clickbait era too many people never get past the headline and that is obvious by Biglentils post.

Its called propaganda used to push an agenda.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Dml, the same sources where I found the above info also made repeated mention of the fact that most of the supposed flood mitigation infrastructure money (much of that coming from foreign aid) has been squandered or stolen by corrupt kleptokrats, with very little actually being built. I've never been there to see for myself, so I will reserve judgement.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Another idea worth noting.
If you look at the dates of the past flooding, they mostly come in groups of 3 to 4 years, then large gaps without. Almost as if the weather is cyclical.

[agstar77]

Another idea worth noting.
If you look at the dates of the past flooding, they mostly come in groups of 3 to 4 years, then large gaps without. Almost as if the weather is cyclical.

True but in todays hand to mouth food supply system ,one bad cycle could be a disaster.

[dmlfarmer]

Another idea worth noting.
If you look at the dates of the past flooding, they mostly come in groups of 3 to 4 years, then large gaps without. Almost as if the weather is cyclical.

Of course weather has cyclical patterns. The same as most things in nature and the universe show cycles. But just because there are cycles does not mean man cannot impact or influence those cycles

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Of course weather has cyclical patterns. The same as most things in nature and the universe show cycles. But just because there are cycles does not mean man cannot impact or influence those cycles

It also makes it virtually impossible to accredited any given weather event to climate change alone, as virtually every news article is doing lately.

There are cycles within cycles within cycles many of them out of phase with each other at time frames from hours to hundreds of thousands of years, many of which we don't even know enough about to comprehend their impacts let alone detect their existence. But journalists with arts degrees, and armchair experts on a farming forum can confidently attribute the cause of every weather event to climate change. I wish I could have such certainty about all of the decisions in my life.

[sumdumguy]

This week in the thirties, not uncommon. After the late, cold spring, we are getting some pay-back. 👍🥵