Side by sides

[furrowtickler]

There was quite the debate here last fall about spraying after harvest ……..

Sprayed


Not sprayed

[furrowtickler]

Going to need a miracle to be knee high by 4th of July! Corn and Soy are warm blooded crops... cool Augusts... just like growing Lentils... make maturing these crops with mature decent yields... a 1 year in 5 proposition... unless you believe in global warming... which fails to materialize in last half August/September much too often...[3 out of 5 years].

Not far off now ….


Definitely need more heat units but coming along

[furrowtickler]

The only solar panels I am interested in ..

[furrowtickler]

And this has some moisture
When dry , it’s even more blocky and layered

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If you were Clay soil in any way resembled our gray wooded clay soil before you started with the amendments, then that is nothing short of a miracle. We have aggregates the size of a basketball typically.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that we are starting from completely different initial conditions.

[WiltonRanch]

It has more to do with soil than anything
We had root rot in dryish years as well .
Add in 3-4 crop year rotation, herbicides that cause injury at the worst time when the peas are not quite nodulating yet and cool mornings before or after herbicide application or a heavy rain after a pre emergence herbicide

For us it was mostly compacted clay soils was the main reason. Add in one or more of the above and it made the situation worse dramatically.

A healthy soil , and a herbicide application that causes no injury and peas cause do well even if aphenomycies is present . Fusarium root rot was the biggest issue here

You have Speers Solonetzic soils? We have some those and they can be a bugger if not in that Goldilocks zone.

[furrowtickler]

Have you had any luck with the pea root rot issue?

Seems here that reserve soil moisture is the difference. Dry in 2021 no pea root rot. Lots of June rain in 2022, but no soil reserve moisture and no pea root rot.

Not sure if the previous 12 month bone dry soil reduced innoculum levels or lack of spring subsoil moisture or both.

It has more to do with soil than anything
We had root rot in dryish years as well .
Add in 3-4 crop year rotation, herbicides that cause injury at the worst time when the peas are not quite nodulating yet and cool mornings before or after herbicide application or a heavy rain after a pre emergence herbicide

For us it was mostly compacted clay soils was the main reason. Add in one or more of the above and it made the situation worse dramatically.

A healthy soil , and a herbicide application that causes no injury and peas can do well even if aphenomycies is present . Fusarium root rot was the biggest issue here

[WiltonRanch]

In fact , the soil amendment we are using now is making a huge difference in our clay soils ..



Building carbon without the Gabe Brown system….

Gabe builds his bank account from speaking tours.

[poorboy]

The seed treatment on cereals and peas works out to about $4/ac
The crop aid plus is $5-6 /ac
We add the Plus to the Alpine or Liquid 28 at seeding. Then you can also add it to either the herbicide or fungicide application

Thanks for posting all your trials and results.

[poorboy]

Have you had any luck with the pea root rot issue?

Seems here that reserve soil moisture is the difference. Dry in 2021 no pea root rot. Lots of June rain in 2022, but no soil reserve moisture and no pea root rot.

Not sure if the previous 12 month bone dry soil reduced innoculum levels or lack of spring subsoil moisture or both.

[furrowtickler]

furrow, you should head to the UofS and get some side line work in the ag research dept.

I just happen to know a few people a lot smarter than me and am willing to see with an open mind .
It’s those people who should be at the UofS .
I graduated with a few of these very smart guys at the UofS back in the early 90’s .
Learned from the pea root rot train wreck that we needed to fix our soils . Adding foliars and fungicide after the fact is just simply a bandaid to the real issue in the soils around here .

[furrowtickler]

The seed treatment on cereals and peas works out to about $4/ac
The crop aid plus is $5-6 /ac
We add the Plus to the Alpine or Liquid 28 at seeding. Then you can also add it to either the herbicide or fungicide application

[jazz]

furrow, you should head to the UofS and get some side line work in the ag research dept.

[wade]

[QUOTE=furrowtickler;543548]First year of soil treatment , only one shot so far



Two years of Crop Aid Plus soil amendment

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Thank you for sharing your plot work.

What is approximate product cost/acre/application of the Crop Aid Plus?

[furrowtickler]

First year of soil treatment , only one shot so far



Two years of Crop Aid Plus soil amendment



By the way this product was developed in Australia