Vaderstad

[Sodbuster]

Clay builds up on seed opener and plugs the fertilizer opener in front of it?

I’m trying to picture this but it’s not working, how can the back shank plug the front shank?

[makar]

I’m trying to picture this but it’s not working, how can the back shank plug the front shank?

The old farmland backswept knife would do that, pushed crap ahead.

[mbratrud]

Sorry not commodity related but doubt anyone checks the machinery threads. Anyone running a newer vaderstad in heavy clay? We are looking at getting a dual shank unit but some say in heavy clay the seedboots plug easy. Any truth to that? There are also two units to choose from. One with a cast holder and steel seed boot or one with plastic seed boots. Which is better?

We are for sure going with the old style dual shank. I have dug many fields seeded by hawks and find it does a better job in heavy clay than the inline shanks.

Thanks in advance.

Running Vaderstad in heavy clay, dual shank reduces trenching Running the inline sideband dutch boot for seed shank, plugging not and issue in wet or dry.

[mbratrud]

Got a set of hardly used inline openers if anyone interested pm me. No good in wet clay.

is that the paired row? I have both paired row and 3/4 inch sideband tips for my dutch seed opener. could not seed with the paired row in wet, sideband worked great. In dry conditions paired row worked fine.

[biglentil]

is that the paired row? I have both paired row and 3/4 inch sideband tips for my dutch seed opener. could not seed with the paired row in wet, sideband worked great. In dry conditions paired row worked fine.

I had the dutch inline paired row as well. Im talking the dutch 3/4inch inline sideband. Took em off and went back to factory half way through seeding. Conditions were what I would call extremely mucky, in a normal year they work well and clear trash much better.

[Goodtime]

looking at a 2021 Vaderstad but it has paired row which I am not familiar with, how do they stand up in rocky conditions?

[flea beetle]

Is the paired row a must on 12" space? Just bought a seedhawk for next year and it has the factory 1/2" sideband opener. Thinking of getting the Dutch inline sideband for canola, as well as the inline paired row for cereals because they can be changed back and forth with a roll pin. Just wondering if this is necessary, or if the factory sideband is perfectly fine. A little scared there won't be enough seedbed utilisation for cereals with the 1/2" sideband. Did talk to one local guy and he said that he runs the factory sideband and seeds cereals and sees no yield difference to his flexicoil 5000 style drill with spread boots.

[TOM4CWB]

Is the paired row a must on 12" space? Just bought a seedhawk for next year and it has the factory 1/2" sideband opener. Thinking of getting the Dutch inline sideband for canola, as well as the inline paired row for cereals because they can be changed back and forth with a roll pin. Just wondering if this is necessary, or if the factory sideband is perfectly fine. A little scared there won't be enough seedbed utilisation for cereals with the 1/2" sideband. Did talk to one local guy and he said that he runs the factory sideband and seeds cereals and sees no yield difference to his flexicoil 5000 style drill with spread boots.

On a dry year the [1870CP] single [1' spread] is better than the paired row on cereals... the seed bed is more fractured after the paired row... both work the vast majority of the time with no significant difference. On peas I use both the openers so same effect as paired row... little difference in emergence time [fr seeds] from 'deep band' [3/4' deeper] opener in almost all conditions. Our NH precision is running the Dutch 1" on 12" spacing... very nice emergence in all conditions all crops. On canola frost tolerance is better with 1" than paired row, more protection from ground heat.

Cheers

[biglentil]

Is the paired row a must on 12" space? Just bought a seedhawk for next year and it has the factory 1/2" sideband opener. Thinking of getting the Dutch inline sideband for canola, as well as the inline paired row for cereals because they can be changed back and forth with a roll pin. Just wondering if this is necessary, or if the factory sideband is perfectly fine. A little scared there won't be enough seedbed utilisation for cereals with the 1/2" sideband. Did talk to one local guy and he said that he runs the factory sideband and seeds cereals and sees no yield difference to his flexicoil 5000 style drill with spread boots.

I think it depends on your soil type on lighter ground that flows well I think you wou would be significantly better off with the SBU of a paired row opener especially on 12". Its two 5/16's bolts to change from the inline to paired row dutch boot. 2 guys can change a drill over in an hour or two.

[flea beetle]

After doing some thinking, I think it might be worth the swearing and what not to change to the paired row for cereals, and the side band for canola. On my farm, if I gain 3 bushels/acre on cereals by switching, that equates to over $75000. Pretty good paycheque for a few hours work.

How hard is it to change from the seedhawk sideband, to the twinband? Or do I have to go the dutch route to make it easy?