Senate vote

[furrowtickler]

So why is “secret info” not being passed on to the senate so they can make an informed decision on one of the most important votes ever in Canada?
Let the senate decide if the info warrants the EMA .
Either this info is real or not , if the info is a valid threat the EMA will pass justifiably, if it’s not , the EMA is dropped . Why hold it back ?
To make a decision like this requires all the info .
Unless it’s a nothing burger..... who knows ?

[cropgrower]

So why is “secret info” not being passed on to the senate so they can make an informed decision on one of the most important votes ever in Canada?
Let the senate decide if the info warrants the EMA .
Either this info is real or not , if the info is a valid threat the EMA will pass justifiably, if it’s not , the EMA is dropped . Why hold it back ?
To make a decision like this requires all the info .
Unless it’s a nothing burger..... who knows ?

im shure the secret info is that their is no info to justify the EMA

[TOM4CWB]

im shure the secret info is that their is no info to justify the EMA

Like; Fox, Rebel, and the Block/CPC opposition have planned an insurrection backed by Quebec, and Alberta.

Likely Trump and the Russians will be complicit in these plans.

Cheers

[WiltonRanch]

Like; Fox, Rebel, and the Block/CPC opposition have planned an insurrection backed by Quebec, and Alberta.

Likely Trump and the Russians will be complicit in these plans.

Cheers

Lol isn’t it ironic bq and cpc are voting together. If anything this convoy has brought two rivals together.

[TOM4CWB]

Lol isn’t it ironic bq and cpc are voting together. If anything this convoy has brought two rivals together.

It is amazing, they could have switched speeches and there would have been no way to know who wrote which speech. They are tag teaming... which makes the debates yet even more entertaining.

[WiltonRanch]

It is amazing, they could have switched speeches and there would have been no way to know who wrote which speech. They are tag teaming... which makes the debates yet even more entertaining.

God if Quebec and the west could work out some differences and perhaps understand one another, not necessarily like one another, but understand they’ve been setup to hate one another by their own governments all this time. Unity can be a dangerous thing.

[sumdumguy]

How would it be if Alberta, Saskatchewan and Quebec defected. That would make it pretty uncomfortable for the centre of the universe, Ontario - specifically Ottawa. Not to mention that those three provinces have a lot of resources.

[bucket]

God if Quebec and the west could work out some differences and perhaps understand one another, not necessarily like one another, but understand they’ve been setup to hate one another by their own governments all this time. Unity can be a dangerous thing.

A good coach can make people that dislike each other, work together.

We need a good coach.

[TOM4CWB]

A good coach can make people that dislike each other, work together.

We need a good coach.

"People can disagree... without being disagreeable."

Canada used to be known for being reasonable compassionate people... not so much... any more...

[sumdumguy]

What adjectives will history reserve for Canada today? Do you think Trudeau ever opens his eyes and thinks about that?

[chuckChuck]

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy-trucker-protest-vaccine-mandates-covid-19/

February 14, 2022 – If the goal of the Freedom Convoy was to capture the attention of millions of people in Canada and around the globe – mission accomplished.

If, however, the goal was to build support for their demands to end pandemic-related restrictions – it has backfired utterly.

New public opinion data from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute shows after more than two weeks of unrest, Canadians are now more likely to oppose measures sought by protesters.

Overall, more than two-in-five now say Canadians say the protests have made them more inclined to support ongoing restrictions related to masking indoors (44%) and vaccination requirements to cross the Canada-U.S. border (44%).

As the country rolls into another week of uncertainty, nearly three-quarters of Canadians (72%) say the time has come for protesters to “go home, they have made their point.”

As to how the situation should be resolved – most feel the time for talking is done. Nearly seventy per cent either think local police need to step in and send people home (45%) or that the military should be summoned (23%). One quarter (26%) say it’s up to politicians to negotiate a dénouement.

However, those same politicians, including the prime minister and the leader of Canada’s official opposition, are roundly criticized for harming, not helping events. Two-thirds (65%) say Prime Minister Justin Trudeau comments and actions have worsened the situation, while two-in-five (42%) say this of Candice Bergen, leader of the official opposition. The Ottawa police and Ontario Provincial Police also garner considerable criticism, with more Canadians – and Ontarians – saying they have worsened rather than helped to resolve the situation.

Blockade backlash

What is perhaps even more notable within this discussion is the overall impact that the protests have had on public opinion regarding pandemic-related mandates and restrictions. By nearly a two-to-one margin, Canadians say that they are now more likely to support both federal vaccine requirements at the Canada-U.S. border and indoor mask requirements in their communities. Another one-in-three Canadians have not been moved at all:

[burnt]

What adjectives will history reserve for Canada today? Do you think Trudeau ever opens his eyes and thinks about that?

"shocking descent into totalitarianism"?

"stunned into submission by a fascist dictator"(who displayed a fetish for blackface and swastikas)?

[bucket]

What adjectives will history reserve for Canada today? Do you think Trudeau ever opens his eyes and thinks about that?

From hansard

""""""Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, the invocation of the Emergencies Act is extremely serious and we have taken it extremely seriously. It followed specific steps that were taken and this will continue in the House. It followed consultation with the premiers. It gives tools, in a proportionate and responsible way, to the officers of jurisdiction to be able to end these illegal blockades.
This will be a moment that will be studied in the history books. What people will see is that the Conservatives never stopped playing personal partisan politics.""""""

[furrowtickler]

Chuck this thread is about the senate vote and whether or not the senators will be given all the info for as to why they should pass the EMA or not

Take your wanna be post on whether the trucker convoy won or lost the popularity contest some where else .

[Blaithin]

From hansard

""""""Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.):
Mr. Speaker, the invocation of the Emergencies Act is extremely serious and we have taken it extremely seriously. It followed specific steps that were taken and this will continue in the House. It followed consultation with the premiers. It gives tools, in a proportionate and responsible way, to the officers of jurisdiction to be able to end these illegal blockades.
This will be a moment that will be studied in the history books. What people will see is that the Conservatives never stopped playing personal partisan politics.""""""

I would say the Liberals and NDP never stopped personal partisan politics. Many have made it obvious that while they oppose the mandates or want a plan to end them and disapprove of the EA, they vote for them simply because their party does.

The Conservatives are just being the Conservatives.

For this reason alone I hope the Senate puts seriousness thought into a veto. If the HOC is voting, not in what they feel are the best interest of their constituents, but in the best interest of their party amidst obvious political games, then the Senate should be obligated to think outside of the pressure put on by party politics.