fertilizer to conservative's questions

[bucket]

I find it interesting that the conservatives ask questions of government about the fertilizer reduction and its effects on food production.

Now keep in mind Ferilizr Canada had meetings with O'toole and Barlow according their twitter.

I think the questions are more about the fertilizer companies bottom line.


No questions about the gouging of Canadian made fertilizer or the drought?

The fertilizer companies have them on a tight rope.

Make it look like a farmer problem and a consumer problem but actually its a gouging and collusion problem.

[foragefarmer]

World wide Supply/Demand


Europe is predicting 25% fertilizer shortage for up coming growing season. Shortages have been in the making for months now.

What do you think o Toole can do? Your grasping at straws.

You're honestly thinking Canadian Fertilizer companies are going to have a domestic price for Canadian farmers with a world wide shortage and profits that can be made?

Are you forgetting the two tier domestic wheat pricing system of years gone by and where that ended up.

As Neil Young would sing "Keep on Rocking in the Free World"

[jamesb]

Scary thing is, I believe there is gonna be a good chance that most plants will not have much product available come spring. Like now product is going out as quick as it comes in.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

World wide Supply/Demand


Europe is predicting 25% fertilizer shortage for up coming growing season. Shortages have been in the making for months now.

What do you think o Toole can do? Your grasping at straws.

You're honestly thinking Canadian Fertilizer companies are going to have a domestic price for Canadian farmers with a world wide shortage and profits that can be made?

Are you forgetting the two tier domestic wheat pricing system of years gone by and where that ended up.

As Neil Young would sing "Keep on Rocking in the Free World"

Well said.
I was going to suggest that next time South America has a crop failure and we have good crops, that we should all agree to sell our grain to domestic users for much less than world price.
In fact, I had good crops this year I guess I should be selling them for last year's price by that logic.

[redleaf]

I don’t always agree with bucket, however I think you are putting words in his mouth. His comment was regarding fertilizer having the ear of politicians leaving actual farmers out of the loop. Much the same way our sitting government decided we will “voluntarily” reduce our use of fertilizer. Not one single consultation with any actual farmers unless maybe NFu or organic organizations were consulted.

[BTO780]

We all talk of having a crystal ball ... if there’s a time to have one it’s now.

[bucket]

I don’t always agree with bucket, however I think you are putting words in his mouth. His comment was regarding fertilizer having the ear of politicians leaving actual farmers out of the loop. Much the same way our sitting government decided we will “voluntarily” reduce our use of fertilizer. Not one single consultation with any actual farmers unless maybe NFu or organic organizations were consulted.

Thank you. When listening to the conservatives ask the questions about the fertilizer reduction by the liberal government they made it sound like it was farmers that were going to be hurt by the reduction which in turn causes food security issues.

Fertilizer companies have already reduced fertilizer usage by their pricing plus the fact that many farmers are finding the fertilizer is still there from 2021.

There was no fertilizer shortage last year. There are the same number of acres in 2022. Chances are more pulse crops, there is no shortage of natural gas to make fertilizer in Canada.

And finally to some of the other comments, Russia and China have reduced exports to ensure production in their countries. Seems when you are talking food security , it might be wise here as well.

[bobofthenorth]

You're honestly thinking Canadian Fertilizer companies are going to have a domestic price for Canadian farmers with a world wide shortage and profits that can be made?

Actually there's a fairly strong argument to be made that the Canadian market is currently trading at a discount to the US and the world. The whiners will whine but the smart money is locking up supply for spring. We don't have to like it but we buy the crop. You have to pay to play and there's no guarantees even when you do pay but for sure if you don't pay you won't get the bushels.

[Old Cowzilla]

For what it's worth local fert rep said most customers are cutting back do to soil test results . And seed rep said soybean seed is in big demand. IF ground stays black all winter those stories might hold true.

[TOM4CWB]

For what it's worth local fert rep said most customers are cutting back do to soil test results . And seed rep said soybean seed is in big demand. IF ground stays black all winter those stories might hold true.

Wondering if some missed the commitment Liberals made to reduce Fertilizer use by 30%... by 2030... which is not a 2022 shortage supply price question / issue. With out sustainable soil nutrients- and replacement of them [nutrients] as we crop yearly... the movement to get rid of livestock production agriculture to reduce greenhouse gasses... is an outright failure to recognize food security...

Clearly 3rd world 'poor' people will suffer the greatest discrimination in food supply... killing them first.

War, famine, terrorism and disease from this intentional disruption in food security -30% nutrients by 2030 for farmers... COP 26 and the Climate Change elite are turning into cold blooded killers... if this goes ahead.

Cheers