Fertilizer prices today will bankrupt most farms with a hiccup next year. PERIOD!

[furrowtickler]

Prescription fertilizer application

There are great options other than application of the high rates you have stated above.

The last 30% of fertiliser you propose to apply are high risk low reward inputs…

I find it unlikely our soils have that many more nutrients …

Times change… risk rewards change… as does our responsibility to our planet and our grandchildren!

Many Blessings! Happy Black Friday! Merry Christmas!!!
Hope you don’t go bankrupt!!!
Cheers

I am probably the very last guy on here to preach high fertility rates too .
We have applied as needed for 15 years

[GDR]

When we were all 1/2 1/3 or 1/4 fallow concerns were a lot different. Not saying it was great neither but you could seed a crop on fallow with little fertilizer and diesel and shovels were cheap. Don’t miss it really but nostalgia and simpler times you know.



All this bs and still nothing more satisfying than checking cows when you’re pondering how screwed up the world is.

No snow here yet, has been great weather for fall work, ground still not really froze. That's all good but would be nice to clean the ground up with a bit of snow for feeding cows to cut the waste down.

Next year looking to be a tougher year for sure either way if good crops prices will suck but costs up or poor crop and prices up without much to sell and still high costs.

I soil tested half my fields, quite surprised but there is not much residual left.

[WiltonRanch]

When we were all 1/2 1/3 or 1/4 fallow concerns were a lot different. Not saying it was great neither but you could seed a crop on fallow with little fertilizer and diesel and shovels were cheap. Don’t miss it really but nostalgia and simpler times you know.



All this bs and still nothing more satisfying than checking cows when you’re pondering how screwed up the world is.

[quadtrac]

Ok quad i would of bought my anhydrous cash in Sept and none would deliver then they would and it went up to 88 cents limited amount. So who has it all maybe 1%.

Now on the fert gradual. most have maybe some bought but probably only 47% rest is coming.

With piss poor crops cash is tight for some or a lot so I'm probably right.

now how far am i off on my scenario.

Also I will make more money this year growing 45 wheat and 35 Canola than i did on last year.s crop.

We are over producing for who?

But go ahead that's why farmers never win they always come in last place.

Very true that anhydrous is a challenge.
We went away from it years ago a good part for that exact reason.
Win some years and lose some. Overall average is what matters really.

[TOM4CWB]

Run those numbers on less than 1/2 the yield

Prescription fertilizer application

There are great options other than application of the high rates you have stated above.

The last 30% of fertiliser you propose to apply are high risk low reward inputs…

I find it unlikely our soils have that many more nutrients …

Times change… risk rewards change… as does our responsibility to our planet and our grandchildren!

Many Blessings! Happy Black Friday! Merry Christmas!!!
Hope you don’t go bankrupt!!!
Cheers

[furrowtickler]

I got NH3 @ $.88/lb... = $1600/Mt if it is 10-20% more... add that to my prices... many farmers have this booked for 2022.

Direct high pressure injection liquid @ 70lb/ac = $55/ac N cost spring applied direct seeded.

Double 2021 cost = 30$/ac... more for 2022... about $60/ac with P K and S more.

On 44bu/ac Canola... that is less than $2/bu extra Fert cost for 2022.
On Wheat $1.30/bu... on peas $1/bu.

Looks like you might consider more efficient application methods... so you could drop fert use by 30%... hint hint!

Cheers

Run those numbers on less than 1/2 the yield

[SASKFARMER]

How did you buy all your anhydrous needs early do you have like 5 bullets to hold it all.

Direct high pressure wow every one uses that don't they.

Just saying lets look at todays numbers not one here or there.

Hell i got 24 for half of last years crop of Canola big ****ing deal.

Thinking your going to win this game is a joke.

Fertilizer is way out of line your just believing what's been fed to you.

Look at lumber its back to lower than it was before or just back to that level.

Its a game we produce all except Phos. They are making out like bandits.

Oh and tom what happens if in your area it doesn't rain and you get wiped out like ROSETOWN>

How will you be next fall?

[RD414]

Bought half our usual amount of fert. and that is it. 5.5 inches rain in 15 months is making me think we will leave it in the bin.Does anybody have design plans to turn a 40000 bushel bin into a cabin. Think we will move some to the hill pasture and set up a guest ranch. Might as well use them for something

[TOM4CWB]

Ok quad i would of bought my anhydrous cash in Sept and none would deliver then they would and it went up to 88 cents limited amount. So who has it all maybe 1%.

Now on the fert gradual. most have maybe some bought but probably only 47% rest is coming.

With piss poor crops cash is tight for some or a lot so I'm probably right.

now how far am i off on my scenario.

Also I will make more money this year growing 45 wheat and 35 Canola than i did on last year.s crop.

We are over producing for who?

But go ahead that's why farmers never win they always come in last place.

I got NH3 @ $.88/lb... = $1600/Mt if it is 10-20% more... add that to my prices... many farmers have this booked for 2022.

Direct high pressure injection liquid @ 70lb/ac = $55/ac N cost spring applied direct seeded.

Double 2021 cost = 30$/ac... more for 2022... about $60/ac with P K and S more.

On 44bu/ac Canola... that is less than $2/bu extra Fert cost for 2022.
On Wheat $1.30/bu... on peas $1/bu.

Looks like you might consider more efficient application methods... so you could drop fert use by 30%... hint hint!

Cheers

[SASKFARMER]

I agree Herc math is fun.

Just playing around now vs last few years.

Any one who thinks its good at these prices is living in a dream.

But that's the ones who all of a sudden leave the game.