Fertilizer prices today will bankrupt most farms with a hiccup next year. PERIOD!

[furrowtickler]

I got NH3 @ $.88/lb... = $1600/Mt if it is 10-20% more... add that to my prices... many farmers have this booked for 2022.

Direct high pressure injection liquid @ 70lb/ac = $55/ac N cost spring applied direct seeded.

Double 2021 cost = 30$/ac... more for 2022... about $60/ac with P K and S more.

On 44bu/ac Canola... that is less than $2/bu extra Fert cost for 2022.
On Wheat $1.30/bu... on peas $1/bu.

Looks like you might consider more efficient application methods... so you could drop fert use by 30%... hint hint!

Cheers

Run those numbers on less than 1/2 the yield

[TOM4CWB]

Run those numbers on less than 1/2 the yield

Prescription fertilizer application

There are great options other than application of the high rates you have stated above.

The last 30% of fertiliser you propose to apply are high risk low reward inputs…

I find it unlikely our soils have that many more nutrients …

Times change… risk rewards change… as does our responsibility to our planet and our grandchildren!

Many Blessings! Happy Black Friday! Merry Christmas!!!
Hope you don’t go bankrupt!!!
Cheers

[quadtrac]

Ok quad i would of bought my anhydrous cash in Sept and none would deliver then they would and it went up to 88 cents limited amount. So who has it all maybe 1%.

Now on the fert gradual. most have maybe some bought but probably only 47% rest is coming.

With piss poor crops cash is tight for some or a lot so I'm probably right.

now how far am i off on my scenario.

Also I will make more money this year growing 45 wheat and 35 Canola than i did on last year.s crop.

We are over producing for who?

But go ahead that's why farmers never win they always come in last place.

Very true that anhydrous is a challenge.
We went away from it years ago a good part for that exact reason.
Win some years and lose some. Overall average is what matters really.

[WiltonRanch]

When we were all 1/2 1/3 or 1/4 fallow concerns were a lot different. Not saying it was great neither but you could seed a crop on fallow with little fertilizer and diesel and shovels were cheap. Don’t miss it really but nostalgia and simpler times you know.



All this bs and still nothing more satisfying than checking cows when you’re pondering how screwed up the world is.

[GDR]

When we were all 1/2 1/3 or 1/4 fallow concerns were a lot different. Not saying it was great neither but you could seed a crop on fallow with little fertilizer and diesel and shovels were cheap. Don’t miss it really but nostalgia and simpler times you know.



All this bs and still nothing more satisfying than checking cows when you’re pondering how screwed up the world is.

No snow here yet, has been great weather for fall work, ground still not really froze. That's all good but would be nice to clean the ground up with a bit of snow for feeding cows to cut the waste down.

Next year looking to be a tougher year for sure either way if good crops prices will suck but costs up or poor crop and prices up without much to sell and still high costs.

I soil tested half my fields, quite surprised but there is not much residual left.

[furrowtickler]

Prescription fertilizer application

There are great options other than application of the high rates you have stated above.

The last 30% of fertiliser you propose to apply are high risk low reward inputs…

I find it unlikely our soils have that many more nutrients …

Times change… risk rewards change… as does our responsibility to our planet and our grandchildren!

Many Blessings! Happy Black Friday! Merry Christmas!!!
Hope you don’t go bankrupt!!!
Cheers

I am probably the very last guy on here to preach high fertility rates too .
We have applied as needed for 15 years

[Old Cowzilla]

If us older guys had to go back to filling press drills using 50 lb . fert bags that would likely solve this fertilizer problem.

[ajl]

With modest yield goals given the weather from the past number of years along with good residual fertility level, I will not need to buy much fertilizer next spring. The problem is that if we suddenly do get a good weather regime, I will not have enough nutrition to maximize yield. Last year that would have been the case as well but the early July heat made the problem go away. Have not had good weather at this location for many years so no swinging for the fences around here. Best was 2016 in recent years. Only soil tested the land that produced the most this past fall. Assume that where the crop was quite scant that almost all applied fertilizer still there. I think that the fertilizer has over hyped this shortage to keep farmers buying and that prices will ease into spring especially urea. Seen that a number of times before especially 2009 but more recently 2019. My brother binned fertilizer in the fall and I picked up from dealership in spring for less especially after the may long weekend price drop. Bit worried about P long term though and the soil test said to keep applying P.

[makar]

Lots or I’d venture to say most have fert priced for 2022 but what about 2023?
Who says there has to be a reset on prices?

Really doubt it.

[SASKFARMER]

Farmers in western canada are not scrambling to buy fertilizer talk to manager of a district for a grain company or Fert company