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  • Old Cowzilla
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2020
    • 1559

    Who's fault anyway ?

    So every morning in western Canada fuel trucks pull into every farm yard and fill every tractor, combine and truck so we can operate for the day and they do this every day all year right ? Getting a little tired of the auto guys complaining that the just in time things not working. Gee who would have guessed !.... my rant. chilly this morn - 1.
  • foragefarmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 3482

    #2
    Originally posted by Old Cowzilla View Post
    So every morning in western Canada fuel trucks pull into every farm yard and fill every tractor, combine and truck so we can operate for the day and they do this every day all year right ? Getting a little tired of the auto guys complaining that the just in time things not working. Gee who would have guessed !.... my rant. chilly this morn - 1.
    Could be true about not getting supplies for many things as the backlog of containers in L.A. Port and shortage of truckers is raising havoc in USA. This would definitely effect Canada as well.

    I do see your point, it does seem to be the catch all excuse used everywhere now.


    Personally I figure as a farmer I should be thinking of what inputs (supplies) I need in the spring and start getting things in motion now.

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    • LEP
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 2464

      #3
      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
      Could be true about not getting supplies for many things as the backlog of containers in L.A. Port and shortage of truckers is raising havoc in USA. This would definitely effect Canada as well.

      I do see your point, it does seem to be the catch all excuse used everywhere now.


      Personally I figure as a farmer I should be thinking of what inputs (supplies) I need in the spring and start getting things in motion now.
      We get most things lined up in the fall but burnoff partner chemical and in crop, etc. Don't have heated storage for that. Don't really want it in case of fire or theft either.

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      • blackpowder
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 9246

        #4
        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
        Could be true about not getting supplies for many things as the backlog of containers in L.A. Port and shortage of truckers is raising havoc in USA. This would definitely effect Canada as well.

        I do see your point, it does seem to be the catch all excuse used everywhere now.


        Personally I figure as a farmer I should be thinking of what inputs (supplies) I need in the spring and start getting things in motion now.
        Fert deliveries in spring not even guaranteed to our dealers.
        Canola seed a real supply shortage.
        Speak for in crop herb now.
        Dealer may get 80%.
        Crap, we'll need $10 wheat again.

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12482

          #5
          And the really scary part is that we are playing the same russian roulette game of just in time delivery with our entire food supply. Works until it doesn't. I've been more worried about a volcanic winter, or asteroid impact or rogue global cooling experiment or disease/pest disrupting worldwide food supplies, not self inflicted supply chain issues.

          Our grandparents all had months if not years of non perishable food in stock, along with the tools and supplies and knowledge to make more. I wouldn't even know where to start.

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          • shtferbrains
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 5178

            #6
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            And the really scary part is that we are playing the same russian roulette game of just in time delivery with our entire food supply. Works until it doesn't. I've been more worried about a volcanic winter, or asteroid impact or rogue global cooling experiment or disease/pest disrupting worldwide food supplies, not self inflicted supply chain issues.

            Our grandparents all had months if not years of non perishable food in stock, along with the tools and supplies and knowledge to make more. I wouldn't even know where to start.
            All that seems more obvious every day but all our leaders worry about is the pandemic and climate change.

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            • foragefarmer
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 3482

              #7
              Originally posted by LEP View Post
              We get most things lined up in the fall but burnoff partner chemical and in crop, etc. Don't have heated storage for that. Don't really want it in case of fire or theft either.
              Bought trail cameras from Cabela's and put up signs on the farm indicating there are cameras on property.

              Hopefully it helps, but of COURSE some thieves don't scare easily if they have addictions.

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              • wmoebis
                Senior Member
                • Aug 1999
                • 2652

                #8
                Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                Bought trail cameras from Cabela's and put up signs on the farm indicating there are cameras on property.

                Hopefully it helps, but of COURSE some thieves don't scare easily if they have addictions.
                Just about every street, business and a lot of homes in towns have cameras it isn't a detent anymore in fact many look right at them and give the finger or laugh.

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                • dmlfarmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1814

                  #9
                  Pretty easy to pass the blame up the supply chain re shortages. But warehouse space is at an all time low. Warehouses are full to the brim across North America to the point if cargo is unloaded at port there is very limited warehouse space to receive it so congestion simply moves from port to roadways and warehouses. So the question becomes are the warehouses full of stuff for which there is no market? Or full of stuff with more potential value staying in inventory in this inflationary period than selling it at current prices. No different than the calls by some posters to lock your bins because grain prices will be higher in a few months.

                  “Warehouses are more full than they’ve ever been,” said Dale Rogers, professor of logistics and supply chain management at Arizona State University. https://www.marketplace.org/2021/10/05/warehouse-space-is-getting-tight/

                  And from Bloomberg in a May 2021 article
                  No Vacancy
                  Canadian cities have the lowest warehouse vacancy rates in North America

                  Logistics consultant Richard Kunst is seeing the fallout first hand, as companies try to fill orders and move merchandise. One client, a food manufacturer, has been forced to pack roughly a third of its orders in a parking lot. Others are so desperate for warehouse space Kunst has advised they ask local farmers if they can keep goods in their fields. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/amazon-fuels-north-america-s-most-severe-warehouse-shortage

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21856

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    Pretty easy to pass the blame up the supply chain re shortages. But warehouse space is at an all time low. Warehouses are full to the brim across North America to the point if cargo is unloaded at port there is very limited warehouse space to receive it so congestion simply moves from port to roadways and warehouses. So the question becomes are the warehouses full of stuff for which there is no market? Or full of stuff with more potential value staying in inventory in this inflationary period than selling it at current prices. No different than the calls by some posters to lock your bins because grain prices will be higher in a few months.

                    “Warehouses are more full than they’ve ever been,” said Dale Rogers, professor of logistics and supply chain management at Arizona State University. https://www.marketplace.org/2021/10/05/warehouse-space-is-getting-tight/

                    And from Bloomberg in a May 2021 article
                    No Vacancy
                    Canadian cities have the lowest warehouse vacancy rates in North America

                    Logistics consultant Richard Kunst is seeing the fallout first hand, as companies try to fill orders and move merchandise. One client, a food manufacturer, has been forced to pack roughly a third of its orders in a parking lot. Others are so desperate for warehouse space Kunst has advised they ask local farmers if they can keep goods in their f. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-05/amazon-fuels-north-america-s-most-severe-warehouse-shortage
                    So if warehouses are full there is no shortages of many things ? Why is this stuff not moving ?
                    Creating a panic , and over exaggerating the situation..... sounds like a familiar theme the past 2 years .

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