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    #46
    To replace just the US vehicle fleet with EVs and power them with wind and solar would require a 10x increase in the production of electric metals including a 1200% increase in cobalt. LOL

    This has to be a joke. These ESG mouth breathers must all be invested in oil and gas.

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    Last edited by jazz; Oct 30, 2021, 09:28.

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      #47
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      To replace just the US vehicle fleet with EVs and power them with wind and solar would require a 10x increase in the production of electric metals including a 1200% increase in cobalt. LOL

      This has to be a joke. These ESG mouth breathers must all be invested in oil and gas.
      Will COP56 create buying opertunity?

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        #48
        Suffield storage spot nat gas spot price update in November. Early November, spot was as high as $5.40 per gigajoule. Today, late Nov sport price is $4.18 per gigajoule. The low posted was $3.77 per gig last week.

        Overall Cdn natural gas prices have dropped about 25% since early month.

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          #49
          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
          Suffield storage spot nat gas spot price update in November. Early November, spot was as high as $5.40 per gigajoule. Today, late Nov sport price is $4.18 per gigajoule. The low posted was $3.77 per gig last week.

          Overall Cdn natural gas prices have dropped about 25% since early month.
          That’s good news in a frost bitten wind blown barren land that depends on NG to live

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            #50
            Dairy has negotiated 8.4% price increase.

            Biggest ever.


            Nothing to do with natural gas but maybe we need an inflation thread?
            Last edited by shtferbrains; Nov 24, 2021, 19:24.

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              #51
              Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
              Suffield storage spot nat gas spot price update in November. Early November, spot was as high as $5.40 per gigajoule. Today, late Nov sport price is $4.18 per gigajoule. The low posted was $3.77 per gig last week.

              Overall Cdn natural gas prices have dropped about 25% since early month.
              Henry hub up to $5.55 today, an increase of 48 cents. At the same time WTI dropped $10 a barrel.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                Henry hub up to $5.55 today, an increase of 48 cents. At the same time WTI dropped $10 a barrel.
                Suffield spot AECO price steady all week @ $4.35 per gigajoule.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                  Suffield spot AECO price steady all week @ $4.35 per gigajoule.
                  European nat gas still needs to be cut in half before they can start making Nitrogen again. Definitely no plunge yet

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                    #54
                    The fallout speed in natural gas is amazing. February natural gas broke below $4.20/MMBTU today. This now reflects a 33% recent washout. $4/MMBTU should be major chart support.

                    If that breaks, not sure where this market is going . . . .

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                      #55
                      3.66 if there's a warm December.
                      Injections the first two weeks of Nov

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by JankoFarms View Post
                        European nat gas still needs to be cut in half before they can start making Nitrogen again. Definitely no plunge yet
                        Takes about 35 gigajoules to make a ton of NH3.

                        Used to be considered 60 to 70% of production costs on an efficient plant.

                        Gas cost above is not delivered?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                          The fallout speed in natural gas is amazing. February natural gas broke below $4.20/MMBTU today. This now reflects a 33% recent washout. $4/MMBTU should be major chart support.

                          If that breaks, not sure where this market is going . . . .
                          Hopefully way way lower , less carbon tax to pay on heating bills this winter and hopefully cheaper N fertilizer by spring . One can only hope

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                            Hopefully way way lower , less carbon tax to pay on heating bills this winter and hopefully cheaper N fertilizer by spring . One can only hope
                            Except the CO2 tax is fixed per tonne of supposed CO2, so even if gas went to zero, the CO2 tax would remain the same.

                            And don't count on lower N fert by this spring, until the worldwide deficit of N fert is recitfied, the rest of the world will be buying north American supplies at world prices, since they will have no other option there just won't be enough to go around.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                              3.66 if there's a warm December.
                              Injections the first two weeks of Nov
                              farming, great call . . . natural gas slumped right to your targeted support.

                              Major support now $3.30/MMBTU? That would represent a near 50% washout from recent fall gas highs.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                                farming, great call . . . natural gas slumped right to your targeted support.

                                Major support now $3.30/MMBTU? That would represent a near 50% washout from recent fall gas highs.
                                Prices for Natural Gas in North America have certainly moderated, not so much in Europe. Oil edging back up today.

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