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  • macdon02
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1858

    Time to privatize healthcare?

    Gov't on every level has now spent record levels of money they don't have and we are in a rut that we are digging deeper in. It's only a matter of time before we default on this debt and can't make the interest payment. We need a "firebreak" in healthcare and the only way this is going to happen is if the system collapses. It's time we approach this differently and privatization is the only way out. Im ready to pay for what i use, anyone else? This might have been by design or orchestrated but it is what is. It's time to move forward. This can and will take down the pension system that's been regulated to hold 40% in bonds since 2008. It's not a we can do both option, it's either or, now. As farmers, it's worth noting, every dollar of insurance premium is held in the bond market, your house, farm pack, crop insurance, hail insurance, auto and work health benefits. We are staring at systemic collapse if any province fails, what your province does is irrelevant, the weakest province is the first dominoe, whether it's Quebec, Ontario or Newfoundland idk. The greater the rhetoric on health, the higher the chances of default. Calling in military for health is the provinces tapping out on cost. We do not hold limitless wealth, the line is very close. Of course a bond market collapse creates a commodity market bull that'll make the average joes eyes bleed, we need to stay sustainable and the collapse is not in anyone's best interest, and currency is relative to the ugliest sister, again the dominoes are ready or started.
    Last edited by macdon02; Oct 2, 2021, 01:34.
  • macdon02
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1858

    #2


    The demand for govt debt has topped out. Higher rates are on the way.

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    • blackpowder
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9246

      #3
      I've long believed a hybrid system necessary. AHS Mental Health doesn't even function at all in any sense of the word. You either have a treaty number or rely on local Community Living Associations.
      Just one example.
      My mother being forced to die alone in a strange place with an empty local facility is another.
      Just try writing a check, see the looks you get.
      Don't forget the powerful Union.
      It would be easier to get rid of another wheat board. Good luck. Our whole society has drank the Kool-aid.
      Last edited by blackpowder; Oct 2, 2021, 06:00.

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      • jazz
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2018
        • 9308

        #4
        Time to let a private option into the mix thats for sure because its clear Canada cant afford to fund this beast anymore and isnt even trying to.

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        • Oliver88
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 4688

          #5
          Blackpowder, Jazz, AF5 all make good points as always.

          Hybrid system required before everything crashes.

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          • jazz
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2018
            • 9308

            #6
            Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
            Blackpowder, Jazz, AF5 all make good points as always.
            Use doctor language, like 2 weeks to flatten the curve or its triage time.

            Apparently my aunt and uncle in Calgary pay for some private option there. Its expensive, but they say its instant on demand access to the health care system.

            I thought we wanted the rich to pay, well them them pay into the health system directly instead of taxing and redistributing because that fails every time.

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3243

              #7
              A private health care system will emerge after the crash as that is all their will be. I would favor a copay system just most people have for prescription drugs. Need the patient to be paying something themselves to maintain customer focus but won't happen in canuckistan until after the crash. A bond market default would be hyper deflationary not inflationary if that is how the crash goes down. A default would remove liquidity from the system as the money is gone and would have the effect of raising risk premiums going forward.

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              • Hamloc
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 3909

                #8
                I certainly favour a hybrid system. Listening to a radio show the other day, a person phones in with an interesting statistic. In Arizona there is 2.5 ICU beds per 100000 population, in Alberta with our much celebrated socialized medical system we have less than 1 ICU bed per 100000. I fully realize that the individual cost in the States can be onerous but Covid has certainly shown the weaknesses in our present system!

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                • RD414
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 616

                  #9
                  Should be a good supply of highly qualified doctors and nursing staff available for this hybrid venture because they are about to be let go because of no COVID shot.

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                  • agstar77
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 6170

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RD414 View Post
                    Should be a good supply of highly qualified doctors and nursing staff available for this hybrid venture because they are about to be let go because of no COVID shot.
                    Those people are perfect for private healthcare . They have that me first mentality. There needs to be improvements to healthcare but cost per patient is still lower than the U.S.

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