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[TOM4CWB]

Edmonton did not "lose" radar. It was a scheduled decommissioning of Carvel radar and to replace it with an entirely new system. The construction and installation will take until December. Here are a few details from an Enviornment Canada spokesperson that were released in August:

Carvel's station was scheduled for decommissioning and replacement starting in late August.

The old station's Doppler radar — useful for forecasting summer storms "that are rotating," Pederson said — had a range of 120 kilometres.

The new Carvel station, like the others across Canada, will have a Doppler radar range of 240 kilometres.

While the new station is being constructed, the old Carvel station will be offline. But it will be possible to turn it on again until Sept. 23 in the event of severe weather, Pederson said.

"After that period, though, it will be totally dysfunctional and not able to be turned back on."


The new weather radar at Carvel, Alta., a hamlet located 55 kilometres west of the city, should be up and running by December, Environment Canada meteorologist Alysa Pederson told CBC News on Monday.

To leave the Edmonton region without any radar coverage for 6 months is not safe nor acceptable for the 2 million people they have left with no advance warning for extreme weather.

Environment Canada should have provided service without interruption, only Ottawa mindless clueless minions would risk our lives [out here in the 'backwaters' of Alberta] without consideration for loss of life and property. They had an obligation to provide a minimum level of service for the billions of $ of economic and millions of people and international aircraft/airport put at unnecessary risk. Aftter the 100's of billions $ transferred to the rest of Canada... this is a kick in the head.

Cheers

[woodland]

To leave the Edmonton region without any radar coverage for 6 months is not safe nor acceptable for the 2 million people they have left with no advance warning for extreme weather.

Environment Canada should have provided service without interruption, only Ottawa mindless clueless minions would risk our lives [out here in the 'backwaters' of Alberta] without consideration for loss of life and property. They had an obligation to provide a minimum level of service for the billions of $ of economic and millions of people and international aircraft/airport put at unnecessary risk. Aftter the 100's of billions $ transferred to the rest of Canada... this is a kick in the head.

Cheers

Ummmm I’m with you Tom that this is crazy. I’d kinda like to track the storms but haven’t been able too. The Carvel station is only a mile from my in-laws and provides our coverage as well. You’d think they could rig up the new system and still leave the old one running? Good thing the government isn’t in charge of maintenance on a farm. They’d pull the baler down for a scheduled rebuild in the middle of July…………….

This is totally unacceptable and frustrating.

[oneoff]

Chuck chuck so is your check from Trudeau in the mail or is he keeping it as your donation to the liberal party.

Your not that bright.

I bet I scored higher than you did.

First opinions are usually closest to the correct long term conclusions. Saskfarmer may not be as good a businessman; judge, fact provider or BS'er as he considers himself. Oh...and ignore that last "like" too

[oneoff]

Chuck chuck so is your check from Trudeau in the mail or is he keeping it as your donation to the liberal party.

Your not that bright.

I bet I scored higher than you did.

Cross posting the same message indicates a shortage of thoughts...eh smart Saskfarmer.

My patience is diminishing with such continuous attacks. That shit can be thrown by more than mega BS'ers.

[dmlfarmer]

To leave the Edmonton region without any radar coverage for 6 months is not safe nor acceptable for the 2 million people they have left with no advance warning for extreme weather.

Environment Canada should have provided service without interruption, only Ottawa mindless clueless minions would risk our lives [out here in the 'backwaters' of Alberta] without consideration for loss of life and property. They had an obligation to provide a minimum level of service for the billions of $ of economic and millions of people and international aircraft/airport put at unnecessary risk. Aftter the 100's of billions $ transferred to the rest of Canada... this is a kick in the head.

Cheers

Little dramatic there Tom. First September 23 to December 6 is not 6 months (the time when Carvel cannot provide any service). (math is hard for some I guess) Second, Edmonton region has not been left without any coverage as you claim (Strathmore, Spirit River, and Radisson radars have all had range extended to 400 kms providing basic radar service to Edmonton area. Third, all 31 enviornment Canada weather radar sites are getting upgraded. Edmonton is the 21 station to get the upgrade with doubles the current range of coverage providing even better service to rural areas outside Edmonton. Funny you are not complaining about rural Alberta being so far down the list. Fourth, these major upgrades are done in the fall when the risk of extreme weather is the lowest during the construction period when new towers have to be built. And you really believe that the Edmonton airport is at risk of this and they have no additional storm detection. Every modern commercial aircraft will have short range weather radar. The only kick in the head is what you are doing in complaining about something you did not even know was happening. Maybe next time check enviornment Canada radar outage before spouting off.

[TOM4CWB]

Little dramatic there Tom. First September 23 to December 6 is not 6 months (the time when Carvel cannot provide any service). (math is hard for some I guess) Second, Edmonton region has not been left without any coverage as you claim (Strathmore, Spirit River, and Radisson radars have all had range extended to 400 kms providing basic radar service to Edmonton area. Third, all 31 enviornment Canada weather radar sites are getting upgraded. Edmonton is the 21 station to get the upgrade with doubles the current range of coverage providing even better service to rural areas outside Edmonton. Funny you are not complaining about rural Alberta being so far down the list. Fourth, these major upgrades are done in the fall when the risk of extreme weather is the lowest during the construction period when new towers have to be built. And you really believe that the Edmonton airport is at risk of this and they have no additional storm detection. Every modern commercial aircraft will have short range weather radar. The only kick in the head is what you are doing in complaining about something you did not even know was happening. Maybe next time check enviornment Canada radar outage before spouting off.

Not funny at all, as our Shop blew down on Oct 17 and trains were blown off railway tracks in that storm.

My brother knows a NavCanada meteorologist who says they will have Carvel up and running by the end of September… NOT December…

Captain Kirk to Scotty;

What Scotty how long to fix the engines… 2 months you say Scotty? Have them ready in 8 hours…

A Miracle in the works so they appear to be geniuses?

Apparently these guys have done numerous Doppler changeovers already in about a month…

Cheers

[AlbertaFarmer5]

dml, I see you have your BS detector working overtime to prove someone wrong about downtime on radar. But so far, not a peep about the proven false news that Chuck is perpetuating about Ivermectin.

[dmlfarmer]

dml, I see you have your BS detector working overtime to prove someone wrong about downtime on radar. But so far, not a peep about the proven false news that Chuck is perpetuating about Ivermectin.

I could ask you the same question about why you do not respond to a lot of the antivaxers on this site when they spew BS,

I respond when someone is clearly trying to mislead readers as Tom was this morning, first insinuating a radar misfunction, and then claiming it would be down for 6 months even though the radar outage site of enviornment Canada shows it down from Sept 23 to December 6, and when confronted with that responds that someone a relative of his says it will be back up by the end of September so if he knew that already how did he come up with 6 months in the first place - other than to throw "gravel" at enviornment Canada.

I have no intention on picking sides in your love spat with Chuck. Deal with your own issues yourself.

[helmsdale]

As an aside to the carvel update, this has happened at all the other locations that have been updated as well... We were left with early 2000's style coverage when XBU (Schuler) went down. Medicine hat and south were covered by US doppler, but a significant stretch up the sk/ab border to about provost was left with nothing.

We survived.

That aside, I know that Env. Can. put a X-band short range radar in place when they took Strathmore down, you'd think that they could have trucked it up the road to edmonton?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I could ask you the same question about why you do not respond to a lot of the antivaxers on this site when they spew BS,

I respond when someone is clearly trying to mislead readers as Tom was this morning, first insinuating a radar misfunction, and then claiming it would be down for 6 months even though the radar outage site of enviornment Canada shows it down from Sept 23 to December 6, and when confronted with that responds that someone a relative of his says it will be back up by the end of September so if he knew that already how did he come up with 6 months in the first place - other than to throw "gravel" at enviornment Canada.

I have no intention on picking sides in your love spat with Chuck. Deal with your own issues yourself.

Thanks for clarifying that. I mistakenly thought that you were only calling out fake news when it went against your political persuasions.
Now we know better.

But didn't you already pick sides by not responding after declaring yourself the police of fake news?