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    If you include the money sent to United Nations agencies as well as “helping other countries deal with climate change” trudeau’s expenditure on foreign aid is around $10 billion rather than the $6 billion you are referring to. That is closer to 6% of gni than the 3% you were touting.

    Source Spencer Fernando article March 20th, 2017

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      Tax payers money wasted on that IN seat by Trudeau was completely worth booting him from PM . He never stood a chance and pranced around throwing your kids and grandkids futures away for nothing

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        And as for Harper, he spent his term as prime minister cutting foreign aid from the previous 2 liberal prime ministers. As the withdrawal from Afghanistan shows, you can not just pull out of a country once you are there. You have to wean them off slowly and responsibly.

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          At least Chrétien Martin et al. were/are capable businessmen, lawyers, and seasoned in realpolitik. The dumpster fire now does not have real world experience like that and is running more on ideology. Pragmatism is dead from the shoulders up here. Throw in the influence from the NDP in this past govt is akin to Broadbent holding Trudeau captive. Unless inroads are made in the 905 and 416, there will be another minority. A majority for the liberals looks unlikely so far but there is still time for the red machine to pull something out. Only thing which could really hurt the liberals is if another black swan pops up.

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            Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
            If you include the money sent to United Nations agencies as well as “helping other countries deal with climate change” trudeau’s expenditure on foreign aid is around $10 billion rather than the $6 billion you are referring to. That is closer to 6% of gni than the 3% you were touting.

            Source Spencer Fernando article March 20th, 2017
            So you feel you can call me out for not providing a 2020 chart with 2020 data included yet you base your claim on a 2017 opinion article with no details on where the figures came from? And if you are adding in UN contributions for Trudeau, do tell what was the amount Harper contributed through the UN if you are going to compare?

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              Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
              At least Chrétien Martin et al. were/are capable businessmen, lawyers, and seasoned in realpolitik. The dumpster fire now does not have real world experience like that and is running more on ideology. Pragmatism is dead from the shoulders up here. Throw in the influence from the NDP in this past govt is akin to Broadbent holding Trudeau captive. Unless inroads are made in the 905 and 416, there will be another minority. A majority for the liberals looks unlikely so far but there is still time for the red machine to pull something out. Only thing which could really hurt the liberals is if another black swan pops up.
              Absolutely agree

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                What category did his potential UN appointment campaign bribe money fall under, office supplies for foreign embassies perhaps.

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                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  When you present data and facts that back up your argument, you often get lame juvenile insults from the usual suspects.

                  When you post an article that is counter to their thinking, their favorite whine is, it's too long to read or don't you have a thought of your own?

                  When you ask for evidence and numbers to support their arguments you are unlikely to get nothing but personal attacks.

                  It's all hat and no cattle when it comes to discussing many issues.

                  Long on personal opinions and very short on credible evidence.

                  Look in the mirror.
                  Last edited by 6V53; Aug 23, 2021, 12:22.

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                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    So you feel you can call me out for not providing a 2020 chart with 2020 data included yet you base your claim on a 2017 opinion article with no details on where the figures came from? And if you are adding in UN contributions for Trudeau, do tell what was the amount Harper contributed through the UN if you are going to compare?
                    The 2017 article showed one year only and debased your claim that Trudeau only spends $6 billion/year on foreign aid. The point I originally set out to make is that Trudeau gives money away to other countries with nothing to show for it. Just because it doesn’t fall in the “foreign aid” category, doesn’t mean it isn’t going on! I didn’t say that he spent more or less on the cookie cutter definition of foreign aid. You did.

                    If you want to find out what Harper gave to the UN, I suggest you do some work and find it. Not try the lazy way and try get someone to do it for you.

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                      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                      Only thing which could really hurt the liberals is if another black swan pops up.
                      WR, I dont know about that. This election has a different feel to it. Many more pssed off Canadians in a foul mood, the MSM not entirely on Trudeaus side this time. Libs have dumped half a dozen boogeyman arguments out the door in the first week and none stuck. No platform to release. Only thing they have left is the debates and we know OTool should clean skippy there if he shows. Otherwise bring out the Obama endorsement again.

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