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  • WiltonRanch
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4531

    #21
    Liberals don’t give two 💩 about the west and even less of western farmers. Our vote doesn’t matter and never will. Only thing like mentioned before if the families at tea time whine to their liberal buddies because it hurts their bottom line then maybe so. We’ve had over a decade of reasonable crops and prices for the most part. Enough guys old enough with memories of farming in decades long droughts know when to bow out while still on top. Cattle industry will be decimated, and lots of 55+ year old farmers will say screw it. Younger guys like me have a bit more career left but I’m not burning up capitol to squeeze cows through a drought or make input companies rich with no benefit to my bottom line.

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    • Marusko
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 232

      #22
      Base payment on crop insurance coverage rates to account for variable production region-to-region.

      Cap total payment at something like $50,000 so the monster farms don't get extra fuel for their rocket.

      I should be minister of Ag.

      In reality an ad hoc payment of say 40/ac is a perfect excuse for landlords to bump rents by 40/ac. Last renegotiation, landlord bumped rent up by 10%. "Costs are going up!" yeah buddy, tell me about it, my costs went up 25 or 30% outside of rent since we made the last deal and I'm not generating any more revenue. But of course, can't say no cause there's 10 guys outside the door waiting for me to fxck it up. Glad I didn't have to renegotiate this year, with grain prices and the optimistic outlook we had at seeding time, would have been more, look how the crop's turning out.

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      • 6V53
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2018
        • 526

        #23
        Only thing you're going to see on CBC this fall is all the money farmers are making with high grain prices and your going to be blamed for the rising price of groceries.
        Treudo will get more votes promising to confiscate your farm for " The Greater Good".

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        • Rareearth
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 1618

          #24
          Ad hoc ,
          what terrible naming,

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          • bucket
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 17043

            #25
            Originally posted by Marusko View Post
            Base payment on crop insurance coverage rates to account for variable production region-to-region.

            Cap total payment at something like $50,000 so the monster farms don't get extra fuel for their rocket.

            I should be minister of Ag.

            In reality an ad hoc payment of say 40/ac is a perfect excuse for landlords to bump rents by 40/ac. Last renegotiation, landlord bumped rent up by 10%. "Costs are going up!" yeah buddy, tell me about it, my costs went up 25 or 30% outside of rent since we made the last deal and I'm not generating any more revenue. But of course, can't say no cause there's 10 guys outside the door waiting for me to fxck it up. Glad I didn't have to renegotiate this year, with grain prices and the optimistic outlook we had at seeding time, would have been more, look how the crop's turning out.
            If you are an irrigation farmer with 1000 acres in the three main districts , you would be receiving $200,000 dollars for expenses paid for over 5 years by the government ...you don't read that in the news....

            They are growing canola, wheat , flax ...why should a dryland farmer be treated differently....of any size.

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            • Marusko
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 232

              #26
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              If you are an irrigation farmer with 1000 acres in the three main districts , you would be receiving $200,000 dollars for expenses paid for over 5 years by the government ...you don't read that in the news....

              They are growing canola, wheat , flax ...why should a dryland farmer be treated differently....of any size.
              why don't you go to the western producer / grainews / etc with this spicy tip?

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              • samhill
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 896

                #27
                Support payments

                I don’t agree with ad hoc payments for farmers. Every business should operate according to the system. For droughts or floods there’s crop insurance. Hail insurance. Operate within the system. If you want to gamble outside, then go to the casino.
                Or the futures board.
                Floods and drought happen, conduct business accordingly.
                Last edited by samhill; Jul 15, 2021, 13:15.

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                • bucket
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 17043

                  #28
                  Originally posted by Marusko View Post
                  why don't you go to the western producer / grainews / etc with this spicy tip?
                  The WP reported the asset transfer to irrigation districts and the 40 dollar per acre subsidy for 5 years....they just couldn't do the math or look up the ICDC crop surveys and see they are growing dryland crops...
                  Last edited by bucket; Jul 15, 2021, 23:02.

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                  • samhill
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 896

                    #29
                    “I don’t agree with ad hock subsidies”
                    Fat fingers or slow brain, likely both.

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                    • bucket
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 17043

                      #30
                      Originally posted by samhill View Post
                      I don’t agree with for farmers. Every business should operate according to the system. For droughts or floods there’s crop insurance. Hail insurance. Operate within the system. If you want to gamble outside, then go to the casino.
                      Or the futures board.
                      Floods and drought happen, conduct business accordingly.
                      I don't agree with the general population getting 100s of billions of dollars to maintain their lifestyle...

                      Trudeau had their backs.....the federal government can help farmers out.

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