Next Year

[shtferbrains]

Why do all of your catastrophic scenarios occur in the future tense? The trend so far runs completely opposite to what the computer models are claiming the future holds.

That looks like an abject failure of the projections.

I don't make my living in the future.

What I see with these types of scientific studies is a valuable piece of research with an editorial as an afterthought. The editorial had nothing to do with the science.
If you are a civil servant you have to go along to get along.
No different than when Trump canned everbody who's point of view he didn't like.

[furrowtickler]

All the fancy graphs in the world don’t show the frost damage from late spring and early fall frosts

[chuckChuck]

Variability from season to season will still be high no matter what the long term climate trends are. So frosts in May and September will continue.

[furrowtickler]

That’s an absolute guarantee, but it’s the ones in June and August you refuse to admit that happened .
Regardless, the growing seasons have not been longer in most western Canada the past 4 out of 5 years. Proof is in yield and grade loss due to early and late frosts and very low GDD in most areas up till this year .
This year a total different animal as far as GDD , frost free days yet to be determined.

[chuckChuck]

That’s an absolute guarantee, but it’s the ones in June and August you refuse to admit that happened .
Regardless, the growing seasons have not been longer in most western Canada the past 4 out of 5 years. Proof is in yield and grade loss due to early and late frosts and very low GDD in most areas up till this year .
This year a total different animal as far as GDD , frost free days yet to be determined.

5 years is not a long enough period to measure climate. Minimum is 30 years.

Weather extremes including blocking patterns and cold spells because of changes in the jet stream patterns are on the radar of many climate scientists as a symptom of global climate change.

[furrowtickler]

5 years is not a long enough period to measure climate. Minimum is 30 years.

Neither is a two week hot spell
Nice try

[chuckChuck]

Neither is a two week hot spell
Nice try

Never said it was.

[Horse]

Why do all of your catastrophic scenarios occur in the future tense? The trend so far runs completely opposite to what the computer models are claiming the future holds.

That looks like an abject failure of the projections.

I don't make my living in the future.

So you make your living in the past,Hows that working for you,little late to close the door after the horse has left the barn.
Furrowtickler You state the growing seasons are undeniably getting shorter,I will argue that point as I have seen the agri land expand into areas that 40 yr ago do one would have even thouht of planting any crops , varieties have changed and have longer growing days to mature.
All through the 60s there was hardly a dry kernel harvested,the snow was deep and the temps were no where near what they are today. Rain was more general,but most only had 100/300 acres to harvest. 95 JD super 92 massey 542 cockshut got the job done and everyone made a living.

[furrowtickler]

So you make your living in the past,Hows that working for you,little late to close the door after the horse has left the barn.
Furrowtickler You state the growing seasons are undeniably getting shorter,I will argue that point as I have seen the agri land expand into areas that 40 yr ago do one would have even thouht of planting any crops , varieties have changed and have longer growing days to mature.
All through the 60s there was hardly a dry kernel harvested,the snow was deep and the temps were no where near what they are today. Rain was more general,but most only had 100/300 acres to harvest. 95 JD super 92 massey 542 cockshut got the job done and everyone made a living.

I have stated several times , the growing season the past 4 out of 5 years has been shorter in most of western Canada , not longer ... to prove the climate extremists wrong . And I will stand by that all day long.
This year , as I have stated is yet to be seen , GDD is way up over the past 5 years but we had frosts in a very wide area on June 20th for those with short memories and 5 frosts before that after May 15th in many areas
The high GDD is pushing crop maturity huge this year but one early frost and the growing season is over
Maybe not many of your are involved in corn or soybeans , but the past 5 years have been not good and also those that forget the August frosts and highly unusual Early September snows that hurt yields and grain quality in many areas of western Canada the past few years

Long term you may be right , but I do know for a fact what many have faced these past 4 out of 5 years and it sure as Phuket was not longer growing season like the b/s being preached

[furrowtickler]

For anyone who is not sure how plants grow , they are severely limited by frost events in June and August

Just as they are by a few weeks of hot dry weather in July