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  • Austrian Economics
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 365

    Drying grain with wheat straw?

    Apparently there's no problem that can't be solved if you throw $165 million at it.

    Who here has done some digging on the logistical and handling issues if you substituted grain straw for natural gas or propane as a heat source for drying grain?

    https://financialpost.com/news/economy/clean-ag https://financialpost.com/news/economy/clean-ag

    I have to wonder if these alternatives are truly carbon neutral once you account for the carbon footprint of all the inputs.
  • jazz
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 9308

    #2
    Not sure about wheat straw but flax straw would be a candidate.

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    • ColevilleH2S
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1671

      #3
      Sounds like we are just trading off CO2 pollution for particulate pollution.

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      • helmsdale
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 2132

        #4
        Originally posted by ColevilleH2S View Post
        Sounds like we are just trading off CO2 pollution for particulate pollution.
        Isn't that just it... Nat Gas and Propane burn clean! Straw not so much.

        But then after they spend Millions on it, they'll be able to spend Millions more making them all Tier 4 compliant!

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        • blackpowder
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 9376

          #5
          Where we gonna get dry straw if we cant get dry grain?

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          • sumdumguy
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 12057

            #6
            Straw and Grain - this year?

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            • agstar77
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2001
              • 6273

              #7
              Seriously , are they that stupid?

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              • Austrian Economics
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 365

                #8
                I know of a local entrepreneur who builds zero-emission burners which he markets for disposing of plastic waste. They can burn straw just as easily. The price tag starts at around $500,000.

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                • GDR
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1659

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
                  I know of a local entrepreneur who builds zero-emission burners which he markets for disposing of plastic waste. They can burn straw just as easily. The price tag starts mat around $500,000.
                  Maybe zero emissions from a pollution standpoint but the big bad CO2 is still produced in any combustion reaction. This straw burning was in other media too celebrated as a climate change solution by people with no clue. As others mentioned no where near as clean, still producing co2 and also destroying valuable organic matter, and replacing with increased fert rates where baled. Just unbelievable short sighted thinking.

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                  • WiltonRanch
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 4531

                    #10
                    Thought there was an outfit in Manitoba selling bale gasifiers for heating. Had bales on a conveyor or something. Looked elaborate and aimed at large scale heating projects. The bale idea would work for grain drying but if you don’t dry a bunch and infrequently, you’d have to work it into a whole farm heating system to justify cost. Even running an ic engine on the gas to make your electricity.
                    Costs of landing the straw and capitol cost would be atrocious plus the fact you’re exporting nutrients.

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