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    #41
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    Everyone and every profession has an environmental footprint. Ours at least exists in the service of feeding people.

    Have a look at some of the others out there and if any have a cause like that behind them. Example; there are underground caverns full of energy gobbling servers collecting data for facebook and google, storing cat videos and mining bitcoins. I have never once heard anyone say anything about this use of scarce resources and the impact on the environment, yet millions more are added every yr.

    I just put up a little gazebo in our back yard. Cedar from ontario, shipped raw to China to be cut, stained, holes drilled and then packed with garbage chinese hardware and returned on another ship back to costco here. At least thats canadian lumber and might last for a few yrs. There is tons of landfill ready junk coming everyday here.

    Its a little incredulous for anyone to point to ag as a big problem when that sort of globalization crap has been going on for 30+ yrs.
    i bought that little chinese jeep from princess auto for the granddaughters last summer
    when i unpacked the box there was half sheets of OSB from the mill in hudson bay Sask, all the way to china and back ! , 70 miles from where it was made

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      #42
      Our little guys have just about driven the tires right off two of those kid Jeeps. We changed the battery to the smallest automotive battery you can buy. It is about 5 inch by 8 inch. Its a yard tractor battery and lasts about a week. What enjoyment they’ve had from those little Jeeps both going round and round the concrete pad and in the work shed all winter.

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        #43
        Why do people get concerned when farmers drain wetlands? You should see all the red tape and hoops you need to navigate so us farmers can create wetlands.

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          #44
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          To assume we all do those things is wrong .
          Most I know don’t push every square foot of Bush ..
          very few drain wetlands , permission is needed all the way down the drainage system, so it’s rarely done but a few do. Most just work up low areas when dry enough to seed a crop or establish new grass / alfalfa mix’s .
          Newer sources of fertilizer is being used with very low salt index’s
          genetics like wheat midge resistance , schlerotina resistance, fusarium head blight resistance, enhanced seed treatments all greatly reduce the need for spraying applications and harm to good bugs .
          Targeted insecticide that hits only cutworms and leaves beneficial bugs alone is another example .
          Gophers if left unchecked can even ruin forage and grasslands

          The world is changing , and so have most of us , this is not 20 years ago
          Furrow, as I said there are all kinds of farmers but you have to look at the industry collectively. In this very thread there were a number of contributors proudly displaying their cat work, and the rest of the examples are likely not hard to find in other recent threads and that doesnt make them wrong it just illustrates what Blaithin is trying to say.

          I'm glad you are trying to do the right things, I am too but that doesn't mean its common place out there or what we are doing couldn't be perfected. Think about all your neighbours do they do the things you are doing?


          I actually dislike earth day too for what it symbolizes to lots of people but when a farm group starts and contributes to a thread with the very idea to illustrate their intentions to pollute and damage the world it makes us all look like a bunch of red neck morons.

          Jazz, in your example who is the problem? Nothing frustrates me more than all that Chinese stuff retailed back to us but when we make a choice to buy it instead of the more expensive domestic stuff we send a signal to continue.


          And yes there are other industries worse than ag, but is that really the best argument you got?

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            #45
            Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
            Our little guys have just about driven the tires right off two of those kid Jeeps. We changed the battery to the smallest automotive battery you can buy. It is about 5 inch by 8 inch. Its a yard tractor battery and lasts about a week. What enjoyment they’ve had from those little Jeeps both going round and round the concrete pad and in the work shed all winter.
            This is a 125 cc gas job

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              #46
              Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
              Our little guys have just about driven the tires right off two of those kid Jeeps. We changed the battery to the smallest automotive battery you can buy. It is about 5 inch by 8 inch. Its a yard tractor battery and lasts about a week. What enjoyment they’ve had from those little Jeeps both going round and round the concrete pad and in the work shed all winter.
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              This one
              $1700 last year
              $2800 this year , because of COVID

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                #47
                That’s a really nice one with gas engine? suspension? Today our friend brought over a new KTM electric kids racing cycle/ fully electric off-road motor bike. Boys and their toys👏

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                  #48
                  Yes suspension
                  3 gears up and reverse ,horn , headlight, signal lights, seatbelts, 35mph , can be limited slower though
                  Even a spare tire and gas can
                  Girls love it !
                  Adults too, lol
                  Last edited by Guest; Apr 25, 2021, 00:35.

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                    This is the 7 yr old skinnin it

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                      That’s a really nice one with gas engine? suspension? Today our friend brought over a new KTM electric kids racing cycle/ fully electric off-road motor bike. Boys and their toys👏
                      Should be able to get a green rebate on that

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