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Pumped Hydro Storage For Solar and Wind

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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 12003

    Pumped Hydro Storage For Solar and Wind

    Switzerland according to CBC has hit the nail on the head. When surplus energy allows you pump the water up to top of tower, then when you need energy, you drop it through turbines. It looks like a very cheap structure. (Sarc)
  • binthere
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 594

    #2
    Drat. The law of diminishing returns.

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    • Guest

      #3
      chuck (i think) had eluded to this , pumping water back up to the top of hydro dam when power not needed
      very cheap battery !
      Last edited by Guest; Mar 5, 2021, 09:25.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 12953

        #4
        You boys still using party lines or what? LOL

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12561

          #5
          https://energyvault.com/ https://energyvault.com/
          Apparently Switzerland ran out of mountains and lakes, and is making a tower to store energy instead.
          Pumped hydro makes a lot of sene where you have mountains and water.
          For anyone not familiar with Switzerland, check out their topography.

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 12953

            #6
            A5, did hell just freeze over? Is that you or did someone hack your agriville account? LOL

            Are the Swiss good engineers? What a bunch of radical environmentalists!

            "Our Solution

            For the first time in history, our transformative energy storage technology enables renewables to deliver around-the-clock baseload power for less than the cost of fossil fuels. Energy Vault’s ready-to-deploy solution combined with low cost solar or wind renewable generation is lower than the most economical existing, fully-amortized fossil fuel-based power plants (i.e. combined cycle natural gas).

            Our breakthrough technology was inspired by pumped hydro plants that rely on gravity and the movement of water to generate power.

            The Energy Vault solution utilizes the same fundamentals of physics and kinetic energy as pumped hydro but replaces the water with custom made composite blocks utilizing an extremely innovative use of low-cost materials.

            These low-cost blocks, combined with our patented system design and some very clever control software, has allowed us to deliver all the benefits of a pumped hydro system but at a much lower price, starting size and without the need for hard to find topography."
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 6, 2021, 10:28.

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            • workboots
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 127

              #7
              Has anyone looked at the liquid metal battery technology developed at MIT. It seems like the best solution to the storage problem.

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              • jazz
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2018
                • 9308

                #8
                Sure doesnt take chuck long to come in and defend insanity.

                Hmm, I wonder if there was a way to store water for power. What about a hydro dam? Nah, how about a man made tower that holds 0.00000000001% of the water a dam would. Yes.

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12953

                  #9
                  Jazz, it was A5 who brought up the Swiss stored renewable power solution. I said nothing about it, I just posted what was on the website A5 linked. Details Details

                  A5 bad bad bad. What a traitor to the coal and gas workers for posting a storage system! LOL

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                  • sumdumguy
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 12003

                    #10
                    No Chuck, all information on innovation is valuable. No matter who posts it.

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