Has anyone participated in Code of Practice zoom meetings

[bucket]

My only goal with alot of my comments is to get people to think about the interconnectivity of every aspect of all of this..

1. I don't think the price of grain should be linked to the presidents hairdo but it does...


2. I don't think Bobblehead freeland should impact our markets but she did...without remorse.

and finally I don't think a code of practice will prevent the above two, change the outcome, but it will drag us all in for the ride whether we like it or not...

And we won't be able to voluntarily avoid what happens next.

[burnt]

While true but it is hard to do something when they stack the deck against you...

Farmers just getting more info on this since November and they have been working on it for years .... the consultation process is 3 weeks with predetermined outlines...without a good overview of regional differences...


They are always defaulting to provincial laws ...this is a poorly thought out process...

Really, defaulting to Provincial laws?

Here's what we have found to be effective when they make that claim - SHOW ME THE SPECIFIC REGULATION which gives you this authority. Don't be surprised if they experience an involuntarily evacuation of their bladder right in front of you.

Cuz when faced with this direct and provable request, they get really nervous. And they usually do not know how to respond to it WITHOUT RESORTING TO THE SUPPORT OF THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL!

What we have discovered is that most of these regulators are inept buffoons when it comes to knowing the Laws upon which their policy relies. And that even their legal counsel can easily and often be caught promoting illegalities.

Such was the case when the county Planners tried to once again subvert the county severance policy to their purpose by going directly against superior statute, even having the approval of the county legal counsel.

We proved, once again, that what they were trying to implement was unlawful.

Council, this time, concurred with our opinion and evidence, and followed our recommendations to direct the Planning department to make the appropriate change to bring the county policy in line with several over-riding Provincial Statutes.

I discussed this matter with another lawyer who worked for us on a class action in the past. I asked him, "Why would a lawyer give his client direction that he had to know contravened higher law?"

The lawyer's reply?

"It's what lawyers do".

I do actually spend more time farming than I do in legal issues with the municipality, but sometimes it gets close...

It's amazing what one can learn by reading related Law, and then following up by reading case law which actually puts the meat on the bones of Law.

Trouble is, what i've found is that one can do all this work and present it to council, only to have them stare dumbly at the planners or whoever the regulatory proponents might be, and go with the "professional opinion".

Sometimes they are hopelessly stupid and totally inept and unqualified for the job they are elected to do.

Let me change that - usually they are...

[tweety]

Thanks for reading.

Oh, BTW, what have you done lately?

Or maybe you don't want us to know - are you working for the other side?

I've always worked for the other side. With your farm data so generously donated and grain up 50%, life is good.

[bucket]

I've always worked for the other side. With your farm data so generously donated and grain up 50%, life is good.

But would you identify as a farmer on these consultations?

[burnt]

I've always worked for the other side. With your farm data so generously donated and grain up 50%, life is good.

There's always something to be learned in discussion.

Even from a gratuitous leech.

[bucket]

There's always something to be learned in discussion.

Even from a gratuitous leech.

But they listen to the gratuitous leeches because they agree with the narrative....me, I get criticized for bringing up facts about DU or Freeland destroying market access.

[wmoebis]

Why is it that producers are always the last to get consulted after all the time and money is spent to design these things for farmers. Ask them first what they want it is your money that runs these programs.

[Guest]

Take their stolen money away from them
Buy something for yourself
There’s too many lazy , self entitled leaches out there to ever hope at having a meaningful farm group

[bucket]

How well informed are the majority of farmers about this process....

How many see other issues that are more important....

Its been a very quiet process...some of those involved have said.." how could farmers not know" ...well there was a shitty 2019 harvest and a pandemic lockdown ...

90 minutes to just introduce a section of one module then you get a 233 question survey...can you say time you cant get back..

once again remember this from the WGEA....farmers need to understand that once a grain company buys their grain on the elevator driveway it becomes their property

Why doesn't the CGC enforce the code of practice ( ie the grin act or the CGC regulations)on the grain industry?

You have to remember the so called farmers on the board are wearing two hats ...there are zero non affiliated farmers ...no NGO farmers ...no non commission farmers...

And how the phuck does DU qualify as an NGO????

questions and no answers.

BTW i brought this back to the top because farmers on the roundtable board think all farmers should have known about this...most dont and that was their responsibility to get the word out as part of provincial commissions...

[bucket]

To be clear I think farmers need to start speaking up and telling their commissions to consolidate...

you have something like this code of practice being developed at the same time as the federal government is developing protocols for farming as well with required record keeping and reporting to ECCCC ...

Alot of overlap and for former politicians not to connect the dots or the zoom meeting host not to make the connection after numerous reminders throughout two meeting about having parallel systems...

It just shows that Synthesis is out for a payday...